First Test Cycle
What's up guys,
I currently weigh between 150-155, with around 9 or 10% BF and 5'7. I am 22 years old and have been lifting weights all of my life, since middle school to be exact. I have always been naturally strong considering my weight and I am serious about my intensity in the gym. I also have an extremely fast metabolism and find it hard to gain weight at times. The only time I feel that I pack on pounds is when i load up on high protein foods, i usually consume no less than 200g of protien every day. However my goal is to get my bodyfat down to 6 or 7 and put on a good 10-12 lbs of solid muscle.
In a couple of weeks I will be starting a Test Cypionate cycle using Veyron Pharma from a top rated source. I can't decide if i want to run a 10 or 12 week cycle. The 10 week cycle would be 250mg twice a week (Monday and Thursday)(500mg a week). The 12 week cycle would consist of 200mg injections twice a week. I am also planning on running Adex at 0.5 EOD on cycle. My PCT will consist of Nolva (Tamoxifen Citrate) for 4 weeks (40mg ED/40mg ED/ 20mg ED/ 20mg ED).
I know I am young but I have made the decision to do what I want with my body. Any feedback at all would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if I'm leaving anything out. Thanks.
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Why would you drop to 200mg shots if you choose the 12wk option... it works out that you are taking less test ??????
It's not that. I just have 2 vials and my options are 500 mg a week for 10 weeks or 400 mg for 12 weeks. This is based on the amount I have. I don't want to go over either of those doses on my first cycle anyways because I don't know how my body will react.
I would say go with 10 weeks at 500 mg. You will recover faster from a shorter cycle. 400 mg is a very conservative dose. I think 500 mg is the sweet spot. I don't think you would see a big difference between 10 and 12 weeks.
Agreed hit the 500 for 10 for best reults.
Thanks fellas
zewiYeppers.. Even though i would buy more and make it a 12 week cycle.
Dont be greedy now zewi bro... you know deep down you really want to coming running 20 weekers with yer uncle V.... right!! Lmao!
zewiyes i do.. getting one together for the fall.. Just for you!!!
CleyonI was just about to send you my 20wk cycle plan! LOL
Send it through bro..lets have a look see......
naguib123Well it sound like you got your mind ready.
1st of all your eating 4 - 6 meals a day, that's no good. you should be eating 6 - 8 meals a day. please eat more, steroids are not food, it will not make you grow
2nd please tell me thats not your pct??? More research, you are not ready. PCT consists of CLOMID & NOLVA and it should be used two weeks after the last injection because you are using a long term ester.
oh and protien intake should be 2.2 x lb if you want to put on weight
I dont think you should be doing this. especially if your not getting enough cal or working out hard enough. if your doing 5 days a week 2 hrs in the gym i think thats pretty weak brother,i mean shit my warm up + cardio take up around an hour alone, and your only lifting for 45 min?? R u fucking kidding me?? you know there is something wrong here bro? I mean Wtf? you should definitely rethink your diet and workout plans before going to steroids. and i have friends who are hard gainers and they manage to put on weight fine so you really gotta think about it bro, there is no easy way out. you can take the roids, they may or may not work for you, but what happens when your off of it?? all i gotta say if you do this is wait till you experince low test during pct OH you will really feel the shit storm
ive done my research man, i guess i wasn't detailed enough for you since your taking some things out of proportion. I can guarantee you my training is not slacking, i said i lift for 2 hours, i have no idea where you pulled 45 minutes from? kinda weird. So don't tell me how serious i am.
I said im having trouble filling out like i want to and putting on weight, i don't have a problem getting stronger. With my weight Im benching 260 and doing 4x6 of 320 on squats and it's all natrual.
Clomid is not an absolute necessity but it is recommended and i still haven't ruled it out.
naguib123clearly u did research, clomid is not an absolute necessity you say.... really... Im Done... good luck with your cycle and tell me how it works out for u , lol
lol stop being drama queen
naguib123lol i was mad about something when i wrote this.. damn tren haha
Yeah I'll let you know
At your height weight age....honestly.....go into the listing for bb competitions back of the magazines etc. Look for a local competition and go natty into it. Run a couple amateur shows to get that diet experience first. The guys that ive seen head to nationals all started in local natty shows. If you can't dial in the diet...the gear just adds more issues. They judge the shows on appearance and how you post yourself onstage more than absolute perfection. Jack up s high protein diet with a food guru on here and i guarantee you'll boost on a good 10lbs solid. Cardio and lean out and do a lightweight division. These battles are won in the kitchen. 6mo is plenty of time for you to prep for a lightweight local comp.
Well... you already know your to young.. No sense in arguing with you.. Good job on posting stats. When you say you have been lifting serious what do you mean by serious? Are you eating 4-6 meals a day. Train 5-6 days a week. 8+ hrs of sleep a day? How much water are you taking in? Whats your calories at Bro?
I do eat 4-6 meals a day with a couple shakes in between. I usually lift 5 days a week for 2 hours each day. Monday being chest and shoulders. Tuesday legs and abs, Wednesday Back/Biceps, Thursday Triceps and Abs and Friday rest and start again Saturday.
In the mornings I usually eat 5 whole eggs with a full wheat bagel or whole grain cereal. Then ill add a whey shake about an hour after and I'll go lift maybe 45 minutes after that. After the gym I eat Pork or Chicken with a serving of potatoes and string beans with another whey shake about an hour after the meal. I usually eat a nice steak for dinner with a baked potato and some broccoli and a big shake before bed.
Bro listen to Fast48 and Irish... Something is not right with what you are doing... your 5 7" . Short guys like us usually dont have trouble growing with a Good diet. Fast48 hit it right on. These battles are won in the kitchen! If you really have a fast Metabolism start having cheat meals. Go down to Burger King after a gnarly Leg day. You should really start counting your calories.. People all the time think they are getting +3k calorie diet when they are only getting about 2000. That happend to me when I was 20. Sit back an look at your diet.
Thanks buddy! I was a hardgainer til i found out that 5k calories just didnt boost my overtraining. I hit up to 8000 with training and soccor.....got three sponsors. All natty. I have no special genetics....i forced the growth by fuelling it.
I appreciate what yall are telling me and I'm not a hard head so I do listen. I guess it has to be my diet because it's not the way i lift. I keep getting stronger but my weight has stayed the same for several weeks. I guess i just came into this thinking with a test cycle i can get a big boost in size in strength and keep alot of it with a proper pct and then i could just work from there. But if somebody could PM me with a diet recommendation i would appreciate it. I like that burger king comment too.. lol