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Igf-1 Blood test

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Just got my blood drawn I’ve been 4 units a day from my grey market china source. I dosed 4 units exactly 2.5hrs before my blood was drawn, And my igf-1 came back at 135----. Thought I was well stocked for my cycle starting October 1 turns out I don’t have HGH at all. Going to Place an order asap with one of our trusted domestic sources. Really bums me out but at the same time I should be happy because I have made some major progress and if I did it without HGH, then things are gonna just get sweeter when I add it in.

GD55's picture

Like others have mentioned already IGF-1 numbers alone have many variables. Hopefully it was just your diet and gear is not bunk. But with your gains and at 4iu you would have probably been suspect of it already. What was your baseline IGF-1 before starting?
I recently had my baseline tested with only test and reta came in at 181 IGF-1, 0.6z score. In calorie deficit. Now doing 2.5 iu every night fasted before bed. Keeping the same diet as prior to start of 2.5 Iu nightly at bed. 5 hours after eating, give extra time for the reta before bed. After 8 weeks getting labs again for IGF-1 to compare. But also getting Serum test 3 hours after injecting 10ius IM.
I am sure its legit GH just want to check the numerical values to compare from batch to batch vs COA's to my blood. Can't wait! 4 more weeks then will change titrate up and eat like a monster and monitor glucose and run labs again in 8 weeks there after and hopefully dialed in. I'm loving the sleep and the way fat is melting away. But GH in general going of IGF-1 number is difficult from what I have read. Too many variables, and if not knowing them well leave many mystified.

J-WULF88's picture

This was my first time ever testing igf-1 I’m fairly new to the ped world. And I’ve never ran HGH before this either.

Joe2dope's picture

For what it’s worth, I did the same thing. Was taking 4-6iu from a source on here and my igf levels were not where I thought they would be when I tested. I was thinking I was doing something wrong, gear might have been bunk, etc. I’ve seen many others using the same source with posted labs that show the opposite, pretty elevated igf levels. With more research, I realized testing igf like that is not a good indicator. I’ll do a serum GH test one of these days

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Jockstrap's picture

There's many forums in here showing serum is not a good test. One is that serum test will show great numbers but what you paid for ended up being just a cheap peptide. Peptides won't give a good igf1 because they don't boost it. Igf1 is the whole idea of using hgh. So a false reading is given.

J-WULF88's picture

I do get a huge hunger pain every time I take my 4 units about 30 min after. It’s probably just a secretagogue I’ve been taking.

GrowWithLeon's picture

Yes, that is a difficult one.

For the majority of persons, IGF-1 at 135 after dosing 2.5 hours prior to the draw is essentially baseline. If you've been running it regularly, real HGH at 4 IU typically increases it higher than that.

You still own the progress you made, at least. Things should become a little more open after you include legitimate items. After this, domestic and tested is the best course of action.

TDAU's picture

Agreed. I pulled a 244 igf score on 250mcg of ipamorelin the night before my labs. Interested to see where it is on 4 units of GH in a couple of weeks

xeaven's picture

Most easy way to feel HGH for me morning finger feeling after injecting 3-4 IU before sleep. It usually starts after 4. 5. day for me. For sure won't tell much about dosage but gives me an idea its over 2IU at least, because I get this finger joint stuck feeling above 2IU

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Jockstrap's picture

That number is crap. Try for 3 to 3.5 house post injection. That sucks....

Khandum's picture

Doesn’t mean the GH is not real, IGF-1 is pulsatile over a 24 hour period from that injection. It’s very complicated system and so many factors go into if your liver is going to produce IGF-1 or not. Just cause you pin GH it doesn’t automatically mean you’re gonna have a high level of IGF-1, also 2.5 hours is not long enough, I believe the GH peaks after 4.

If you wanna know if it’s real or not you should have did a Growth Hormone Serum test, and not a IGF-1 test. The same thing would happened to you even if you pinned Pharma Grade GH.

J-WULF88's picture

Thanks for the insight. I thought igf level remain high for
Quite a while after injection. I was taking 4 units nightly for a couple months, and I took four units the night before my bloodwork, and another 4 units at 4am and and my blood drawn at 630.

Khandum's picture

Are you currently in a deficit, cutting, or on very low carbs? Caloric restriction is one of the biggest suppressors of hepatic IGF-1 output. When calories and insulin are low, the liver downregulates GH receptor expression, meaning it won't convert much circulating GH into systemic IGF-1 regardless of the dose. That does not mean the GH is bunk, cause GH exerts massive direct lipolytic, anti-catabolic, and tissue protective effects independent of liver derived IGF-1.

J-WULF88's picture

Yeah I’ve been running a lower carb diet lately and I was fasted at the time of the draw 9-10 hrs

Khandum's picture

Yeah low carb would do it