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-1 First cycle oral vs injectable

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hello all ive been at these forums for a fair amout of time now trying to gather info(you can never have enough) but yet im still confused i know cycles or rather the compounds you chose to use(or shouldnt be using lol) greatly depend on stats, experience, effort you put into your lifting, dieting, cardio, etc. etc. so this is where it gets a little tricky as for results i would like to obtain i was leaning more to cutting up to 10% or lower then bulking closer to the winter but then im also not opposed to bulking up now then cutting up in the winter (hence the reason i am confused as to what i should do) so now that im kind open to either idea i was hoping for some input from more experianced people here. so let me finsih by saying

stats are
22 (23 in nov) , 185lbs, 5'6, higher teens in bodyfat % (have a little pouch on my lower abs ) lifting on and off since i was 16 always involved insports (played soccer for 14 yrs and football for 6) and dieting properly on and off for maybe 2 yrs maybe less

diet consists of
Meal one- 8 egg whites or whey protein (if im ever running late for work and dont have time to cook)and whole wheat toast/crackers or natural oatmeal

Meal two- can of tuna with 3/4 tbls of half fat mayo and 2 tbls of either natural peanut butter or flax seed (on ther own not with the tuna lol)

Meal three- chicken or steak strips and only sometimes some vegies be it brocolli and carrots or a cesar salad with fat free dressing or spinach(yes i know gotta eat my veggies btu you try not eating them for like 18 yrs then forcing them down lol)

Meal four - (pwo at the gym) liquid amino acid blend with 30gr of protein (whey)

Meal five- (ppwo right when i get home) two boneless skinless chicken breasts , sweet potatoes or brown rice and same thing for vegetables as meal 3

Meal six- (1/2 hr befor bed)whey protein with 1 1/2 tbls udos oil blend

Trainign
Morning cardio on a empty stomach 4-5(not on leg days and sometimes on only one or neither of my off days) days a week, training (weight lifting) monday - sholders/traps/fore arms tuesday legs/abs- wednesday off thursday chest/tris friday or saturday back and bi's sunday- off

and the propesed cycles were
cutting then bulking route-
weeks 1-6: tbol 40mgs
weeks 1-6: clen running benadryl at the 3rd week
weeks 6-8: pct nolva 20mgs a day

or the bulking then cutting route
week 1: 800mgs test enth froatloaded (2x 400mgs)
week 2-12: 400mgs test enth (2x 200mgs)
week 14-?: pct (unsure of wich pct protocol id like to followas of right now)

so any info would be good tips recommendations suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

X2... not even going to start here... this is ridiculous imo too.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Hahahah... it was his diet that made me giggle bro its neither here nor there...thats were he needs to do his homework imo.

suzy b MRS viking's picture

Something very wrong and strange going on here,your profile says you are 30yrs old your post says 22yrs old ???? also your stated weight here is 185lb,in your other post about T3 and CLEN you said you were 240lbs.

What are you playing at here, explain yourself please.

suzy b MRS viking's picture

Good,that will save my hubby blowing a gasket Smile

suzy b MRS viking's picture

lol hes not even had a cold in three years.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Lol you guys have done a good job sorting all this shit out.... all nice and cool ready to fill my face again bro... meal five is the BIG one my favourite>

logan's picture

Listen to this man he knows his shit!!!!

OO_OO's picture

thanks for all suggestions, people here are really helpful/