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EQ third cycle, how does this look?

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Boldenone 1-15 weeks/ 400mg weekly
Test prop 3-7 week/ 100mg eod
Test enan 3-13 week/ 500mg weekly
Test prop 13-17 week/ 100mg eod
HCG 10-17 week/ 250iu e3d
Arimidex 4-17 weeks/ .25mg eod

17-21 week
Week 1 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 40 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 2 PCT Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Nolva 40 Daily/Clomid 100 Daily
Week 3 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily
Week 4 PCT Aromasin 6.25mg EOD/Nolva 20 Daily/Clomid 50 Daily

-So reasoning for starting test P and E during third week is in hopes that the test P will kick in when the EQ does during 4th week and to avoid a prolonged cycle.

-Will then ride on test P until test E kicks in on week 7 to prevent scar tissue build up from over pinning.

-Will start test p again during my last week of test E on week 13 and run it for 2 more weeks after finishing EQ to get a more dry and lean look after finishing the cycle.

-Wait 3 days for start of pct.

Diet:

meal 1: 4 whole eggs, protein shake, cup brown rice with some coconut oil
meal 2: 1 chicken breast, cup brown rice with some coconut oil, 1 cup veggies
meal 3: 2 protein shakes, banana
meal 4: 1 chicken breast, cup brown rice with some coconut oil, 1 cup veggies
meal 5: 1 chicken breast, 2 cups veggies
meal 6: 1 chicken breast, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1/4 cup 0% fat blueberry greek yogurt.

My goal is to gain some lean muscle and lose some bodyfat. Please let me know if anything needs changing. Any advice given would be great too!

racecar's picture

Thanks brother means alot hearing that from you! I guesss i'll have to get myself another vial of EQ or make my switch to EQ cyp once I find a source that stocks it.

Catalyst's picture

x2 on the EQ dose - Anything under 600mg is a little light IMO.

ruski's picture

has anyone ever used this starting the test on week 3 for an eq run?

Roid Noid's picture

its more of an advanced approach, but the idea is that by doing it this way both test-e/c and EQ esters kick at the same time and ideally your not being shut down as long from the test ester. similar to the frontload with out the fear of receptor saturation.

ruski's picture

oh i get the idea behind it. but does it work operationally? im somewhat intrigued by it. i want to run eq next time but prefer as little natty shut down as possible. im also rather young, 24. i must admit i know less about eq than i should at this point. i know it takes quite a while to see effects but when do levels start to build in your system? if it really is how he says it is, this could be my nexct cycle. with eq cyp, like u said.

Roid Noid's picture

youll feel EQ around week 7-8, the best thing to do is run cyp and start all together and finish at week 12. that gives you roughly 8 weeks active ester, the same as running regular EQ for 16 weeks but without the long test run with it. if you need me to explain that better let me know.

racecar's picture

Thanks for the info, I didn't even realize there was such thing as an EQ cyp! Would you mind giving me a trusthworthy source that supplies it? I sent you a friend request.

Roid Noid's picture

I dont support any sources sorry, youll need to do your own research.

ruski's picture

no, you hit the nail right on the head for me. thanks bro.

Roid Noid's picture

im not gonna get into a bunch of cycle help, youve figured this out and did very well with the way you designed this cycle starting test at week 3. a couple things are wrong but do yourself a favor and research EQ cyp and then adjust your cycle according to that ester. in and out is better then long runs

mateo81's picture

you're def a lil young to be fooling with your endocrine system. given this is your 3rd "cycle", i doubt you're gonna reconsider...

what's the reason for running prop beginning week 3? you should run that as a kicker if at all at that stage of the game - starting from the first day. bold and enan will take a minute to get into your system. kick that shit from the start, bro.

eq should be at least 600/wk and for around 16 weeks. you can run it 15 if you want, but i'd finish it off with a solid 16. run that enanthate right alongside it; not staggered... week 1-16 eq 600 + test e 500. then taper with prop for 4 weeks following (17-20). undeca ester in the EQ will be in the system for a bit, so let it clear before pct.

hcg... if you run it, i'd run it sooner. closer to week 6 or 8 at 500iu, split twice a week. run this until the last prop pin. (3 days before pct)

good job bridging adex with aromasin! maybe consider reducing your nolva dose in half with that sort of pct protocol. the AI is gonna exhibit anti-estro activities, so the nolva isn't needed as profoundly. otherwise, you may get some low estro symptoms like depression and joint aches.

btw, adex shouldn't be taken eod unless you've confirmed it's needed thru bloodwork. at your level of experience, i wouldn't base things solely on the "feel" of it. bloodwork is key to learning your body. do it right so you don't fuck yourself up. you're too young for trt bro...

Undertaker's picture

To be honest I believe this is too long a cycle for someone of your age. I would not risk shutting down natural test for that long a period. If you must cycle stick to short cycles no longer than 12 weeks. If you are comfortable pinning and looking for a nice lean cycle run a short 8 wk prop cycle. or prop kick, test e, prop taper. If you are going to run this cycle reguardless make sure you are familiar with signs of high rbc and how to remedy.

cry_havoc's picture

What are your stats?

racecar's picture

Age: 22
Bodyfat:15%
Height: 5'9
Weight: 196
Experience: lifting since I was 16 started to seriously lift at 20 and serious diet at 21
cycles: 2 cycles under by belt: 1 cycle of simply test and another of test and var