Which Way to Go
Good day all,
I am always welcome to advice, but I am really wanting to up the game some. Backstory.....I was 160.5 kgs in December 2024 and said enough was enough. I busted my *ss to turn my life around, and I started eating healthy and exercising. Fast forward to today, I am 89.8 kgs and feeling great.
In April 2026 I ran my first cycle, which was 500 mg Test E a week and 40 mg anavar for 8 weeks. My body responded really well to it, and I felt and looked great. As with most people, I am looking to up my game now.
As a 51 year old, I probably am smart enough to not want to do Tren....yet (maybe in the Spring), but I am thinking of doing one of these cycles.
Option 1: 600 mg Test E and 400 mg Deca per week (pinned twice a week), and add 25 mg Dbol for the first four to six weeks. This would be a 20 week cycle.
Option 2: 1 g Test E for 12 to 16 weeks and 40 mg anavar the final 8 weeks of the cycle.
My goal is to gain as much muscle mass as possible (not worried about gaining weight) over the next few months. Then I would like to do a proper rest period, and then do a cutting cycle (thus mentioning Tren earlier). By the end of the summer 2027 I would like to be in beast mode.
Ok, go to town tearing up my ideas and providing improvements to the cycles where you see fit. I appreciate your input!
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Why not just do the same cycle you already have done prior, but this time make it 16-20 weeks long and not just 8. If what you said is true, and you did respond well then you should get what you can out of that cycle and just maximize your gains from it. There is no reason to jump into higher doses for the fun of it. The best cycles are the ones you respond well to and get no sides from, and from what you said it sounds like that was the case. Now if you do take my advice, do not run the Var for 16-20 weeks, start the Var at the last 6-8 weeks of the cycle.
Yes, I know that is probably the proper way of doing it, but chasing bigger results is just so enticing. This is an option I initially thought about doing, and I might end up doing it. However, greed regarding gains is a real problem. Thank you.
Do you have full blood work from before and after the cycle in April? Do you have current bloods for this upcoming cycle?
If you do option 1, an extra 100 of test isnt really needed if you are adding a second compound. If you choose the deca route, id go npp instead. Maybe consider injectable dbol if you really want to kick off with that.
Option 2, you dont need a fucking gram of test
Surprisingly, my blood work was not that bad after my first cycle. The only thing out of range was ferritin, and it was just slightly. I'm blessed with very low over cholesterol and naturally high hgl. My current blood work is spot on in everything, except testosterone. It is high due to trt, at around 1,500. I'm not complaining about that though.
Injectable dbol...... interesting. I will have to do a little research on that option, thank you.
Whats your bodyfat %? I'd reccomend getting as low as you can possibly get before trying to put on size (ideally 10-12%). This is going to put you in the most anabolic enviroment. From there, you can really keep the PED use modest and let the food do the work. No shame in just running 400-500mg test in a decent clean surplus. I bet you'd be amazed at the results if your training and diet is locked in.
Sure ,you can throw more compounds in there but I can almost guarantee that if you're lean enough a modest cycle will yield some killer results.
Thanks for your response. I took a DEXA scan 3 weeks ago and I was 9.6% body fat, but I truly think I'm closer to 12 to 14%. Maybe I am selling myself short.
My diet is very clean and virtually spot on, so I am excited to see the progress. I know I should just run a test cycle, but the lure of bigger gains is overpowering.
I get it man. I would just be remised if I didn’t say it. Just keep in mind it sounds like you’ve only ever used PEDs in a cut. Surplus calories are a miraculous drug!
You’re in a great bodyfat situation for growth man. Whatever you choose will fucking rock if you stay locked in!
Im not that experienced, but more gear doesn't always mean more size, it could just end up meaning more sides and health risks. If 500mg test worked for you last time, do that again until it doesn't. If it aint broke dont fix it. You could throw in some deca or npp if you have some joint issues. 1g anabolics for a second cycle is too big of a leap imho