Copied from another forum, thoughts?
Interesting approach that I have to admit I'm tempted to try:
Everytime I have testosterone mixed in my stack I look it as the aggravator of sides as it amplifies them severely depending on doses and ratios of whats included. Even as a trt base, which is the closest to a stable cycle, it still isn’t my preference. For instance, as many say high nor like tren with trt test base is how you allow tren to shine and reduce the sides which is very true from tried and tested experience however my prl still shoots up a little due to the continuous background aromatization and i am not going to keep spamming ais or caber to control this. I drop test and tried baby dbol 5mg on demand when needed and sometimes a low dose of hcg and magic happens. My latest heavy blast was 1.2g eq 1g deca 1000ius hcg 50var and i was god mode all 20 weeks with retarded libido in comparison to “deca dick” complaints lol. Testosterone is GOOD but not always needed man. The only way you are going to know this is to personally try it and laugh later about the argument of “test is must”. Another was 750ius hcg and 306mg parabolan and 40mg winny. Phenomenal. Scary. Potent. Clean. God mode. To conclude like I said in my previous note it’s just simply a little knowledge and chemist play creating a somewhat balanced hormonal circuit of the triad. Your main driver:e2:dht. Yes brother i have done ages ago 2g deca alone and gotten away with it amazingly. On paper its like 400mg test aromatization frankly speaking of the 20% aroma rate of nandrolone but not accurately biologically. The only main concern when blasting deca/eq test free is their weak DHN/DHB androgens and that’s where u add in a great DHT component to override that effect and keep DHT signaling to maintain an androgenic masculinization effect and drive if that makes sense. Deca cycle alone with var/winny/primo/mast will cover that! Again tried and tested mate. Aside from all the above, yes at times you may feel slightly off depending on the test free stack one chooses as its never ever going to be clean even with test included. There will always be some sort of side. Look at it like this, if the goal is to be in an extremely anabolic hypertrophic environment, your goal is to push anabolism with minimal androgenic activity such as my eq deca hcg var cycle being highly anabolic with the var being there just to compensate some DHT signaling while at the tissue level the eq and deca 100/125:50/25 is HIGHLY anabolic, nothing but gains. Do you feel sometimes a little calmly off? Sure. Is libido there but more of a physical stimulation rather than background desire? Sure. The point here is stability and anabolism not consistent hyper androgenic energy in the background providing excessive sides but definitely worth the mental drive and feel. The funniest way to look and end this is like, you got person A a mass monster who has his hoodie on working out in the corner of the gym all mellow and chill and “calm” while person B is the same however highly aggressive and androgenic style of lifting and presence and aura/energy if that makes sense. Both are excellent and both have their relative individual personalities. I am A. I push highly anabolic circuits at the tissue level while maintaining baseline sufficient needs of e2 and DHT signaling to remain “stable” or “complete”. I hope that makes sense man haha. Cheers!
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LiftLaughLoveMan some of those doses are absolutely insane lol, but the overall idea of pushing anabolic effect while trying to minimize unnecessary side load is pretty interesting.
Good idea – you gain muscle, but you lose your penis and will to live for a few months. There is no logic in cutting out at least 200/250mg of test per week or in his case taking hcg which then feels "the same" as taking a low dose of testosterone.
I was watching a video on YouTube i dont remember which or always taken with grain of salt but from what I remember this is what they described that classic physique guys run low test and blast other compounds because its important to then to look aesthetic as possible keeping hair etc.. idk grain of salt information but interesting
Danny Padilla aka the giant killer said he ran deca only for most of his career and it was clearly working
How is your blood work? No way in hell im running them doses you do let alone no test. But to eaches own.
He didnt say, this isnt my post i just reposted it out of curiosity
You can take the Test out of my cycle when you pry it out of my cold dead hands. That being said I do wanna run 1gTren/300mgTest later this year and see how that goes. Since test can't compete against tren for binding to the androgen receptors anyways there's no reason to run much more test than a trt dose with high tren.
I know I would get less sides when I would run 1:2 test/tren e or npp. Never gone without test.
That tren ratio is my preference as well, currently on 200/400 and having little in the way of sides
I would run 250/500. Night sweats wouldn't start until about week 8 and they weren't bad.