+ 1 Breaking through plateau on the last few weeks of testosterone cycle. Orals ok?
I’m on week 11 of test E 600mg. This is a bulking cycle and my second cycle. The gains have been great. Went 185lbs lean 12% body fat to 215lbs around 18-20% body fat is my estimate. 5’10” height.
These last 2 weeks I’ve seen plateaus on the scale and in the gym after breaking some PRs by a lot. Squat specifically went from 380 to 430lbs.
I started this bulk eating 4500 calories, increased to 5000 halfway, and eating 6000 calories right now. Gaining mostly fat at this point.
I’m training to attempt another squat PR in 3 weeks and I’m hoping to extend the cycle until then.
At this point is it okay to add an oral?
I do anavar on heavy weeks (6 times total this cycle) but I was thinking to do 3-4weeks of dbol or anadrol.
Or should I just stay at 600mg alone and end the cycle at week 15 after the squat PR attempt without adding the oral?
The primary goal was bulking but now my secondary goal is adding as much to my squat as possible in the next 3 weeks
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I've never expirenced that effect, nothing touches superdrol. Anavar gives me a slight bump in strength but nothing to sing praises on
At least in my experience with both compounds drol stomps var into dust
SDrol also stomps your liver into dust lol. Too toxic my man
Decimates the liver.. that's why I'm done with orals. Really don't need them imo
Var is the only thing this old guy is running from now on when it comes to orals.
One of those it was fun while it lasted but shits too toxic. Makes you strong as hell though
Ha I feel ya my man. On top of that as we get older those orals tend to hit a little different. Like you I depend more on oils. And to imagine that trash was sold legally at one time. Unbelievable! But I'm glad u came out good.
Yeah, it's wild kids could buy that shit at there local gnc and I'm sure more than a few got seriously fucked up because of it too.
Yeah it sure does effect you differently as we get older I never got that lethargic in my 20's and early 30's.
Bro, I'm telling you it took me about 2weeks to come out of it after I stopped taking it.
I would be at work like a zombie for half the day.
That's the point where I was like fuck this, it's not worth feeling like shit and fucking my shit up. When I can look just as good if not better with hard work and a solid diet.
Only thing I'll take is var and that will only be for a decent cut..
Good talking with you D, glad you are doing good bro!
I completely understand. Just not worth it seriously. And yea we'll chop it up again. Good talking to u my man.
Thats fair enough buddy - everyone is different. NOTHING can touch Superdrol for strength - but the problem is that barely any of us can run it properly and still eat and fuction well LMAO Many prefer Var over Adrol as people can still eat on it, where as anadrol can make food tough to face.
I get that for sure. I get lethargic around week 3 but can still eat like a horse
Test susp and halo before big lift? You guys do that?
That's before doing a lift really mate, get the CNS fired up and get some aggression in you. No way could I take anavar pre workout - it makes me feel shattered Lol
I don't get a prewo boost from var but after a few weeks on it I do notice a bump in strength/endurance on it. Pop an adrol 2 hrs before workout and it is game on though.
Same here.. after a few weeks I get a bump in strength on var. But superdrol and anadrol are instant power ups lol almost like a cheat code
What Superdrol dose do you tend to run?
20mg, 10mg am 10mg pm
When I was young I would bump it to 30mg split through the day
Last time I ran it I was lethargic as hell towards the end took me two weeks to come out of it.
When I had a few stabs at it I was taking 20mg all in one go which was obv the wrong way to do it, I can see splitting it being much more tolerable at either ends of the day.
First time trying it was the strangest experience, took a 20mg tab and then came down with a bad cold which put me in bed for a few days straight. Like some kind of nutter I was determined to keep taking it though even though I already felt like death. 3 days worth I took in the end, dehydrated and barely any food through out, and to feel better I decided I had to train. It was one of those workouts that you will never forget - I was right at my peak on flat bench and the whole workout the weights felt like nothing. Got an all time PR and there was no struggle or grind, nothing. I swear I could of added at least another few kg's to it. Straight after I began feeling like shit again from the SD and it was something I never managed to repeat as I tried to break it only a few days later again and obv overtrained myself and it all crumbled down lol
Yeah I'm sure it was hard on your system taking the 20mg all at once. I believe the half life is like 8hrs so I always split it.
Like I said when I was younger I would wake up mid night and take the 3rd 10mg pill to make sure to keep it level in my system.
This last time I decided I wasn't gonna ever run it again, was so lethargic I could barely get through work then even worse my workouts. That's when I decided I was done running superdrol again.
It's a big difference running it in your 20's and early 30's compared to 40's
And I bet you were crushing prs when you ran it.
The strength it gives you is like nothing I've ever expirenced before. You're legit significantly stronger with in a week after starting it.
Unfortunately buddy my steroid career didn't start till I was 34, so those magical gains that people experience in their 20's on gear I never got to be a part of. I could see it as a positive or a negative I suppose LOL What tends to happen I have noticed as you get older is you are less willing to feel like shit 24's a day on compounds, you pick the ones you feel good and well on and simply dismiss the rest. Bloodwork the more you see it will also make you second think everything you run too.
Exactly, you nailed it. I'm too damn old to feel like shit all day for weeks on end.
It's funny how our priorities change as we get older.
We get married and have a family and it's no longer about impressing people but feeling good and you end up looking good through that hard work.
Wish I knew at 25 what I know now.
When we are young we tend to do shit for the wrong reasons
Is the chest/lungs a bit better now mate - been worried about ya?
Getting better but still not able to hit gym yet
Just rest well and don't push it, we need you around here brother.
Damn man
anvilYou can add anadrol but if you already gaining fat you are gonna be looking puffy adding that to what you are currently doing. You will for sure hit a new PR adding it.