Blood Work
I got my Blood work back today. It's been 9 months since my last pin of a seriously fucked up cycle I ran of Test, Deca, & Anavar. I should have run test only, but I was going entirely off of a friend's advice. I know now this was a huge mistake. I'm looking to run the cycle listed below of Test only, But I want to make sure I get right first. I did not do precycle bloods before so , unfortunately, I don't have much to work off of as far as baselines. I do know that in 2013, my Test was at 648. I don't have anything regarding Estradiol, or Prolactin at that point. At the end of said cycle, my Estradiol was sky high at 142. After my PCT it was at 72 & my Test was at 332. I just got Bloods done last Monday, & my Test is at 361. My E2 is at 77. I know it's possible for it to take longer for my Test to come up, but I can't explain why my E2 would remain so high. My Prolactin is well within the normal range, & My liver values have come down to just above normal. does anyone have any idea why my E2 would remain so high? Could it be that I just naturally run high E2? The reason I do have test numbers from 2013, is that I was concerned about low T at the time, so my doctor ran blood work. Looking back, I think those symptoms could have easily been associated with high E2, but the doc never thought to check that. I have copied & pasted my recent blood work below. Thank you, in advance, for your help.
Week 1-12 Test C (500mg/week)Sunday & Wednesday
Week 11-14 hcg (1,000/week)Monday & Thursday
Week 1-18 aromasin (12.5mg EOD)
Week 15-18 clomid (50/50/25/25) ED
Week 15-18 nolvadex (40/40/20/20) ED
STATS;
38 year old male
5' 11"
208 lbs.
14% BF
Super clean diet
train 5-6 days a week
Been training for 2 1/2 years 6 years before that with 3 years off Trained before that as well, but takes us back to the stone ages
Don't drink
PROLACTIN
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Prolactin 6.6 ng/mL 2.0-18.0
REFERENCE RANGE for Prolactin:
Adult Male: 2.0 - 18.0
Adult Female:
- Non-pregnant 3.0 - 30.0 ng/mL
- Pregnant 10.0 - 209.0 ng/mL
- Postmenopausal 2.0 - 20.0 ng/mL Stages of Puberty (Tanner Stages)
@ Test Performed By:
Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute
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TESTOSTERONE, FREE (DIALYSIS) AND TOTAL
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Testosterone Total 361 ng/dL 250-1100
Testosterone Free 42.3 pg/mL 35.0-155.0
Adult Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Total
Males:
or = 18 years 250-1100 ng/dL
Females:
or = 18 years 2-45 ng/dL
Males: Men with clinically significant hypogonadal symptoms and testosterone values repeatedly in the range of the 200-300 ng/dL or less, may benefit from testosterone treatment after adequate risk and benefits counseling.
Pediatric Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Total
Age Males Females
(ng/dL) (ng/dL)
IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON WHO WAS TESTED TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S HEALTH CARE PROVIDER FOR CONSULTATION AND INTERPRETATION OF THE TEST RESULT.
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Results Continued:
**Cord Blood 17-61 16-44
**1-10 days 187 or less 24 or less
**1-3 months 72-344 17 or less
**3-5 months 201 or less 12 or less
**5-7 months 59 or less 13 or less
**7-12 months 16 or less 11 or less
1-5.9 years 5 or less 8 or less
6-7.9 years 25 or less 20 or less
8-10.9 years 42 or less 35 or less
11-11.9 years 260 or less 40 or less
12-13.9 years 420 or less 40 or less
14-17.9 years 1000 or less 40 or less
**Data from J Clin Invest 1974;53:819-828 and J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1973;36:1132-1142.
Pediatric Reference Ranges by Pubertal Stage Testosterone, Total
Tanner Stage Males (ng/dL) Females (ng/dL)
Stage I 5 or less 8 or less
Stage II 167 or less 24 or less
Stage III 21-719 28 or less
Stage IV 25-912 31 or less
Stage V 110-975 33 or less
Total Testosterone was measured by LCMSMS. The LCMSMS method correlates well with our extraction/RIA method.
Adult Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Free
Age Males (pg/mL) Females (pg/mL)
18-69 years 35.0-155.0 0.1-6.4
70-89 years 30.0-135.0 0.2-3.7
Pediatric Reference Ranges: Testosterone, Free
Age Males (pg/mL) Females (pg/mL)
5-9.9 years 5.3 or less 0.2-5.0
10-13.9 years 0.7-52.0 0.1-7.4
14-17.9 years 18.0-111.0 0.5-3.9
@ Test Performed By:
Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute
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Complete BloodITCISouTnHtE(RCEBSCP)ONSIBILITY OF THE PERSON WHO WAS TESTED TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
WBC 5.8 x10E3/ul 4.5-10.0
RBC 5.3 x10E6/ul 4.5-5.5
Hemoglobin 16.9 gm/dl 14.0-17.5
Hematocrit 47.0 % 42.0-52.0
MCV 88 fl 80-104
MCH 32 Pg 26-36
MCHC 36 % 31-37
Platelet 102 x10E3/ul LOW 150-450
Neutrophil (Seg)% 60.3 % 50.0-70.0
Lymphocyte% 30.6 % 20.0-45.0
Monocyte% 6.8 % 2.0-10.0
Eosinophil% 2.1 % 0.0-6.0
Basophil% 0.2 % 0.0-2.0
RDW-CV
Liver (Hepatic) Panel 12.9 % 11.5-15.0
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Protein 6.8 g/dL 6.0-8.5
Albumin 4.6 g/dL 3.5-5.0
ALT 41 U/L HIGH 0-40
AST 44 U/L HIGH 0-40
Alkaline Phosphatase 74 U/L 30-130
Total Bilirubin 0.7 mg/dL 0.1-1.5
Direct Bilirubin 0.100 mg/dL 0.000-0.400
Indirect Bilirubin
Lipid Panel 0.6 mg/dl 0.1-1.4
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Triglycerides 79 mg/dl 50-150
Cholesterol 127 mg/dL LOW 130-200
HDL 41 mg/dL >40
LDL (calculated) 70 mg/dl <100
Chol/HDL (Risk Ratio) 3.1
Borderline High 150-199 mg/dL
High 200-499 mg/dL
Very High > 500 mg/dL
Risk of CHD: Male Female
Half Average 3.4 3.3
Average 5.0 4.4
Twice Average 9.6 7.1
Thrice Average 24.0 11.0
Estradiol
Test Name Result Units Flag Reference Range
Estradiol 77
Expected Range:
Prepubertal Female 2 - 43 pg/ml
Ovulating - Follicular (-12 days) Female 19 - 83 pg/ml
Ovulating - Follicular (-4 days) Female 64 - 183 pg/ml
Ovulating - Midcycle (-1 day) Female 150 - 528 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+2 days) Female 58 - 157 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+6 days) Female 20 - 211 pg/ml
Luteal Phase (+12 days) Female 50 - 150 pg/ml
Pregnant - 1st Trimester Female 302 - 6980 pg/ml
Pregnant - 2nITd ISTrTiHmEesRtEerSPONSIBILITY OFeFmTaHleE PE1R0S0O5N W-HO W17A9S80TEpSgT/EmDl TO ARRANGE WITH THE PERSON'S
Pregnant - 3rd Trimester Female 4353 - 17600 pg/ml Results Continued:
Postmenopausal Female 32 - 73 pg/ml
Estradiol-6 Male 2 - 54 pg/ml
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Your name, and the address of lab next to you. SMH
Bostin Lloyd and Rich Piana made it ok/acceptable to do this, get with the times Greg ffs
I hope the OP has Rich Piana and Bostin Lloyd money . . . Maybe with that he can afford a good lawyer.
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Whatever you do, don't start your new cycle yet.
Regarding the ranges... they are guidelines only. The actual point that is right for you personally, is subjective and being within a range is absolutely not the be all end all. Both your current test levels are very low. You estro is clearly up. High estro can drive test down, or you could be a high converter, or you could have high aromatase levels (in other words who knows, so best to speak with a doctor, but in the meantime look to your environmental siutation for clues.............. Perhaps one/some of the following may have caused your situation...
1 You PCT failed
2 Damaged HPA axis
3 Vitamin deficiency
4 High Estro can cause the lower test levels (perhaps you only have 1 problem)
5 Diet
6 Age
7 Exercise type/frequency
The list is endless
A couple of questions that might help shed light...
1: What was your PCT?
2: You mention super clean eating, your chol is extremely low, so I am wondering about fats and what your diet honestly looks like right now
3: What sort of exercise are you doing? Specifically I wonder about cardio types duration etc.
4: What is your headspace like? Stress etc. And, do you take stim supplements or drink coffees (whats your stim situation and timing is what i would wonder to determine cortisol situ)
5: Whats your sleep situation like?
Dear dummy. If you're going to cut and paste things onto a public website, that discusses illegal aas, you may want to be cognizant of your real name being part of said post.
Unless you're a fan of LE and would like to see them more in your life, then continue.
OP, your full name is listed in the post. You need to edit it out ASAP!
Edit: Is there any way for a mod to remove his name from the post?
I think I just saw your name might want to edit that.
I see his name, too.
Before running any cycle I would get that estro situation figured out first. May want to ask a doc about it. Are you experiencing any high estro symptoms? Does everything seem to be working fine?
I would also be working on getting your liver vaiues down a bit before cycling also. They are nothing super alarming but better to be well within range before starting any cycle.
I would also start tracking creatinine levels to help keep an eye on kidney function. Cycling can be hard on them also so you want to keep an eye on them.
Yeah, I'm going to go see a doc about it. Until I saw my blood work, I didn't see any symptoms of High Estro, but based on my training & diet I feel my body fat should be lower than it is at 14%, & I have noticed a huge difference from morning to night with water retention. in the morning, my abs are popping nicely, but at night I feel and look bloated.