Sarge has some awsomke points there and the reason he is directing you to long ester is simply the amount of pinning and likely you will be highly susceptible to pip. I love prop and you would like the effect but it needs to be pinned eod minimum given free test plasma levels with prop fall off a cliff in 48 hrs. Perfect stability of course is in the ed pinning. With long ester you can pin twice a week and be about as stable as possible without an incremetalized drip of prop..lol. 150 eod is about theminimum on prop for an actual cycle, less than that get into trt dosing . Even 100 eod is good test level but not cycle. strength necessarily . You have already ran var (!!!) So you know the compound and running a short ester you could even think short cycles where you run your prop at 150 eod and your var at 40-80 split although getting your bf down before hand would be of major help. If not you would have to dial in like a laser during the short run and I think you achieve. The advantage to a short ester short cycle is you get back to cycle that much quicker. If you run long ester I would run the 12 week standard cycle 500 mg split ew and could run a var closer in the last 4 weeks as set out above. Again, diet is the whole deal don't rely on your compounds to take care of what you didn't get done in the kitche, it won't work that way. Follow sarges advice and run some more research on the test so you can decide if you are ready for the pip and eod shots and go look at his diet work to see how in or out of check you may be. Do more homework on your pct and look to the stickies as well look into hcg and see if its for you and your specific situation. If running the longer cycle its a nice close to help begin to ramp back up. If running shorts without 19's it may not be near as pertinent IMO. I don't want to mislead either, you can run a full cycle with your prop, I do it often but been around long enough I get zero pip and actually am depressed on day s I don't pin, its a sickness! For a newb unless you're a freak a 10 or 12 week cycle full of frequent pinning and limping may take its toll! The good news there is once you have 5 weeks in you can quit anytime if it gets to be too much, would just be a different variation of a short cycle in whaever increment you chose. Its a tough call not knowing your susceptibility to pip etc. I might say if you go the prop route have test E on hand in case you change your mind day 4 and still want to roll a cycle. If running prop pct will begin 2-4 days after last pop. If running long ester it will begin about 2 weeks follwoing last pin . Adex or aromasin on hand . Do you have pre-cycle bloods where we know your estradial level to begin.

Honestly, brother this cycle isn't for you. That's a ton of pinning just from your winny alone. Not to mention prop... Do a long ester such as test c only, for your 1st couple of cycles. Where's your clomid? You have too many easy questions, that you ask. You're not ready to cycle anything, besides creatine hydro chloride. Diet to get shredded. Little trick I've learned, is to not eat anything but a double protein shake, w/vitas & amino before your steady state cardio day.

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