posted Tue, 01/19/2016 - 21:32
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+ 1 5th cycle, being all sust and some var, is Hcg needed?
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This is my 5th cycle, it will be a light and simple one. I've used Hcg the last 3 and recovered quickly, not sure if the Hcg helped at all.. Everywhere has a minimum order of 200-300 and I just need Hcg so trying to decide if it's worth it..
Cycle will be like this
Wk 1-8- 700mg sust per week
Wk 8-10 - 400mg test prop( to prop up lowering sust levels)
Wk 5-9 - 75mg var Ed
Followed by a pct of clomid with Nolva on hand
175 lbs
5'9"
Been lifting for close to 10 yrs, 30 yr old
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musseldawg69+1 brother no advice to give but good luck with ur cycle if ur offshore I understand got a job like that myself definitely understand how it can impact ur weight, I like single esters myself never run hcg or hmg so no personal experience with it
Seems like you need to work on your diet/nutrition and overthink your training routine. After 10 years of experience, with your age and 5 cycles under your belt, there should be a bit more of lbm there. (unless of course the stats are stage ready....but, well, I guess that won't be the case)
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Diegodelgado750Appreciate the advice and personally I agree, been working offshore, just able to get back into gym.. but more asking about the Hcg whether it's really needed / worth the trouble and cost to get it when I have everything but it in hand and I'll be stuck with a 200 dollar min lol.. If i could get just the Hcg that'd be a diff story.. Haven't ran cycle without since I first started yrs ago so unsure how much a diff it really made
With each cycle, hpta recovery is more challenging. If you used hCG during the last cycles, can you provide us with your bloodwork results? If your results show a downward trend, then using hCG would be beneficial. Does this make sense?
Diegodelgado750Yes I have bloodwork after my
Last one about a year ago and about a year after the cycle, but only that one bloodwork, so nothing to compare to. All looked good on there,test was at 600 I remember that. I plan on getting one before I start this next cycle, if I could find a decent place to get Hcg without a min order I would get it just to be safe
I hardly ever use HCG tbh. It raises my estro to severely and I don't recover faster than I'd normally would and my balls are fine as well. So the cons outweigh the benefits for me. But that's only for me!
HCG definitely has it's place. Some really need it, some don't.
Read yourself into HCG and what it does and decide if you want to run it or not. You mentioned that bloods looked good so maybe you won't need it as well. But this is something you have decide for yourself.
Diegodelgado750Ya that's why I'm asking.. I honestly have always ended up really dosing it low cause I also felt it caused high estrogen if I went full on with it.. First time I used it my
Ankles swelled bad and stopped and it went away.. Was thinking with it being just test, the proviron should keep me fine.. Is still like to get it if I could find a place where I don't have to drop 200 lol
Its out there... idk where though...just get other ancillaries with it...u will end up using them anyway...
Diegodelgado750Well I've cut quite a bit of weight I was about 195 when I I finished last cycle, that was almost two years ago. And really more like 5'8" 180 to be more exact.. Body fat is low which is what I had been focusing on, trying to stack back on some of the mass, along with getting back into my old regime..
Diegodelgado750.
Diegodelgado750Oh and have adex, will dose .25 eod as required when I start feeling e2 high, always wait to feel it before I throw in the ai if at all, crashed my e2 first time I used ais and haven't liked throwing in stuff unless needed
Diegodelgado750And forgot to mention will be running 25mg per day of proviron throughout as I really feel it helps overall feeling and results, maybe why I never needed much in the way of ai