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Hey All.
I finally decided to try AAS after 18 years from the last one.
I'm 48, 184, 5.8, and ~20%bf.
My goal is to add a few pounds of pure lean muscle with the longest keep possible, as I understand AAS vary about gain keeping.
Yes, of course, there are many other MAIN factors here, still, the more I read about how steroids such as Primobolan may allow you to keep the gain for a longer time vs powerful steroids like Dbol or Tren the more I turn a blind eye on higher doses and age is not just a number :).
So since I was able to put my hands on nearly any components I designed this cycle in a way I can try at very safe doses.
The reason I share this now is cause I thought I'd open myself up to some criticism, and the opportunity to improve with a bit a help, so please let me know what you think.
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I was thinking about dosing my HGH at 2 iu daytime and two in the afternoon after workout, instead of 4 iu all at once. Os it better this way
I only came to use ChatGP for Data analysis, didn't know It could assist in generating cycles.
As for bf, I believe I will reach ~13 few weeks later, GH, supplements, and good dieting are on, so will oil once there.
GH same.
250 for test.
Dbol 25 same period.
Tren out and perhaps replace EQ with Primo if I am to keep two oils for 10 weeks.
No HCG, but available if needed.
Honestly thrilled with your comments, you people are beautiful.
Will keep on researching even harder...
Thank you all.
That liv52, you can get liv52ds(double strength) so you take less and able to take opposite of time you're taking your orals. I take 2 of the liv52ds a day and it works fine for me even on orals or high oils.
You sure you’re 48 years old home skillet?
This is basic rudimentary science and nothing in the log really adds up, the dose of EQ, the length of the EQ and its hitting so damn late it’s gonna be a full saturation by the time you take that clomid smh
I settled for injecting sustanon 250 every single day
You met your goal with this post. You got the criticism and now know what to improve. I'm just wondering why you can't add a few pounds of lean muscle tissue as you stated with just testosterone and diet? I know that I could. Shit at 184# I could stack more than a few pounds of solid fucking hard muscle that I would keep after
I always say the less you can take to get your desired results the better, but I am utterly confused by this one. 8 weeks of EQ alone says you need to do a little more research brother. 20% bf? Run a moderate dose of test, diet, and cardio is a good start.
This is nuts. You need to do more research. This isn’t even close to a good cycle.
Not enough time off sust and eq to start pct, hcg during pct, like 4 different compounds all staggered during a single cycle.
You need to take some time and do some basic research.
Just no real need for 8 weeks on one compound and switch to another 8 weeks compound. By time they both really start hitting you you're stopping and going to the next one then quitting as soon as it hits. Drop the extra compounds and up the sustanon if your goal is to really "add a few pounds". 125mg of sustanon a week sounds like you will just be wasting the prop and phenyl prop at those low low doses. Maybe a longer ester in my opinion for lower doses but thats my own personal opinion. And at 48 is having kids really a concern? Not for me thats why i dont stress on HCG too much. Dbol your taking as a jumpstarter but if your on sustanon with short esters thana jump start is really needed unless you're on a long ester. Again, thats my personal opinion only. I dont have science to back that up
I bet there's kids on high school football teams doing bigger doses than this.. listen to these guys they got u
I'm, sir. Thank you.
anvilMy kids in high school football hes leaner, taller , and weighs 180 without even creatine. When will people learn you cannot inject hard work and dedication. I'm 48 and I mainly use test and primo, hgh, don't need a pie chart and Excel to do my phases.
If he can stay away from pussy and alcohol and other bullshit hell be alot bigger than that! My son is almost 14 and I'm already seeing what he's going to be He's just tall and Langley now but when he fills out he's going to be freaky. I never got the height gene but he did.
That's a beautiful thing. Your son sounds like he's on beast mode. That's heavy for a high schooler. Yeah no way around the diet an hardworking though. Def should get in at least 6 months of going hard at both before even thinking about juicing. But this society these days got everybody thinking the answers in a pill or substance. Thanks big pharma. But once you hit your generic peak. All bets are off!! Let the juice flow. Lol.
TikTok/ChatGPT
1. Eat "CLEN"
2. "TREN" hard
3. "TEST" your limit
4. "ANAVAR" give up
vs Real Life
1. Eat CLEAN
2. TRAIN hard
3. TEST your limit
4. AND NEVER give up
@23Sparta @anvil lol
oh shit I am bannedActual chatgpt cycle not too bad:
For educational purposes, here's a basic outline of a 12-week cycle combining trenbolone acetate and testosterone enanthate. This example is for informational purposes only and should not be considered as advice or encouragement for use. It's essential to consult a healthcare provider before considering any such cycle.
12-Week Trenbolone Acetate and Testosterone Enanthate Cycle
Weeks 1-12:
Testosterone Enanthate: 250-500 mg per week (administered as a single weekly injection or divided into two doses per week)
Trenbolone Acetate: 50-100 mg every other day
Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) - Weeks 13-16:
Tamoxifen (Nolvadex): 20 mg daily
Clomiphene (Clomid): 50 mg daily
Notes:
Dosage Adjustments: The dosages can be adjusted based on individual goals and tolerance. Starting at the lower end of the dosage range is advisable to gauge your body's response.
Injection Schedule: Trenbolone acetate has a short half-life, so it's injected more frequently (every other day) compared to testosterone enanthate, which has a longer half-life.
Monitoring: Regular health monitoring is crucial. This includes blood tests to check liver function, cholesterol levels, and hormone levels, as well as monitoring for any adverse effects.
Diet and Training: To optimize results, ensure a well-balanced diet and a structured workout regimen.
Side Effects: Be aware of potential side effects such as acne, hair loss, mood swings, and increased aggression. Always prioritize your health and safety.
Consult with a healthcare professional before starting any cycle to understand the potential risks and ensure that it is done safely.
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You mean its woke?
If that's another word for "gaaaaay" then yes that's what I mean!!
Meh at 48 you probably do need test to get anywhere significant. Especially with micro plastics lowering test these days.
Tren, anavar, and clen are probably not necessary unless you really want to push yourself into next level.
Definitely the test. The HCG ive never taken. Maybe its my lack of knowledge on what it really does. But yeah never tried HCG. I always thought it was for replenishing the nuts only. 4 kids and 4 baby mommas guess i never was interested in replenishment. But like i said i never really understood HCG myself
Yeah that’s funny af but 100 that’s the truth. Real life/old school…. if you don’t have that, get it out the mud, solid foundation… no magic’s gonna happen, no matter how slick you think you are
anvilStraight fax!!!
What will get you better results then training hard and eating clean or clen for that matter. Nothing.
Bodyfat too high, stick to a trt dosags of test and cut to 12%, then try a nice 500mg test cycle and go from there.
I think you are initially mistaken believing that gain keeping depends on steroids choice. Gain keeping depends solely on your physiology. The human body strives to maintain balance. this is called homeostasis.
The longer you can maintain an extreme state of your body, the longer you can retain the gains. What’s important is not so much the steroids you use but your ability to manage the cycle and avoid mistakes. I've seen guys who look bad despite taking various gear at different dosages and in various stacks.
Regarding your cycle, I see a tendency towards very small dosages, and I don't think that’s right for your age because there’s a lower threshold of daily and weekly doses that will suppress your glands but give you minimal benefit for training.
Frankly speaking, I think Tren E and Equipoise are not needed in your cycle. I would use Dbol from 20 mg and more from first week. Test: 250-500 Test Enanthate or 200-400 Test Cypionate weekly (2 times a week).
Imo, the balance in your cycle between achieving noticeable results and safety is leaned so heavily towards safety that the pharmacology won’t work to its full potential.
I don’t see much difference whether you use 200 or 250 IU of HCG. I think you shouldn’t worry, use as much as your available HCG allows. You probably already know this, but I want to remind you that HCG is one of the most aromatizing drugs. Keep that in mind.
You’re doing way too much here.
Just run 400 - 500mg of test cyp or test e for 12-16 weeks , 2 weeks after your last shot starts PCT with clomid and tamoxifen. You’ll get better results and it’s a lot less complex than what ever the fuck you were trying to do above was. Don’t over complicate things you just need test at your age and experience level. Test only is the safest way to go. You want to up your game in the future do test primo as that’s relatively safe.
It’s like you asked ChatGPT to design steroid cycle that guys would give you shit about on Eroids
anvilIt's advanced , as the post indicates
When he goes from 125mg to 62.5mg of tren and sust… his pinning days change from sat,tue to mon,thur
That’s some fancy shit
anvilYes I agree that swap will enable the flux compositor to engage fully releasing the butte receptors to be freed up.
anvilHGH good
Dbol why?
Tren why?
Eq to low dose
Sust way to low
Your titration with the hGC is to low your won't even register a 50iu increase
Cyc length is good
the eq is pointless in this cycle, i'd toss it out. Are you sure you want to jump right in on tren? At 48 and after being away from so long it's something I'd personally reconsider, even at a low dosage. PCT should be longer and taper from a higher dosage IMO. I wouldn't ramp down the sust either, if you're going to cycle it, i'd probably go up to a min of 250 and I am a huge advocate of low dose cycling.
Now, if I were to completely rewrite your cycle with what you've stated, I'd drop the tren and eq. I'd run the dbol for 6 weeks but at 10mg (i love low dose dbol, 20 also is ok). I'd add in primo since you stated the interest, it is the king for a reason, I'd run it around 400mg with 200 or so of test for the whole 20wks. Not going to comment on the HGH, it's a great addition for the anti aging benefits. oh and pct on clomid, 100/75/50/25.
You'll probably get a dozen varied answers, none are right, we all have out preferences