33 yr old beginner...
So, I've been training for 12 dedicated years. I'm 5'6" and weigh 171lbs right now. 5 years ago I was very bulky at 220lbs. At that weight I was lifting some serious weight, more so than a lot of powerlifters. Anyways, I've fluctuated for years. I can easily lose bodyfat and be very trim and hard looking or bulky and not look fat(my body fat does increase in the lower-mid teens though). Anyways, I've hit a plateau and I need a serious jump start. I've reached my full potential 5 times over. I cannot for the life of my go over 155lbs without gaining bodyfat. I am proud that I look*** like I've done gear and have been asked several times over the course of my bb career so to speak. My muscle's are mature and look like they could be even better. I'm serouisly considering going into bb now that my muscles are at their peak or at least almost there. I want to run test e at 500mg/week, but would like to know what I should accompany with it...I'm worried about orals and their toxicity. I know how to lift and do variations when things get boring or results aren't there. I need juice advise. What anti-estrogen should I take with test e if any at all or do I keep it on hand just in case...I've always knew I have potential for a much bigger physique with a little help from anabolics. Should I run it 12wks?? What is the best to stack it with without the worst of the worst side effects. I know there will be some but I'd like to limit them. Any advise would suffice. Thanks.
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RustyhookerExample of why we don't spoonfeed. Got spoonfed cycle below. Now being fed pct too? Laughable!
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/got-my-cycle...
Welcome! ....keep the diet clean n plenty and rock it out in the gym..tons of info and knowledgeable members in here to help u out if needed....
eyedeaThanks drock. That's why I'm here. Will be posting pics shortly. 12 yrs of natty bb have worked wonders time to take it up a notch.
RustyhookerDid the op even read the beginners cycle group to learn all this or just spoonfed? Spoonfeeding doesn't teach.
Probably not, but responding "Use the search function" for every inquiry thats asked here doesnt help much either.
RustyhookerBut requesting then to post a cycle, food plans or pictures does help enforce their level of willingness to learn or prove their readiness. It's not always just use magnifying glass but simply prompting their efforts.
500mgs of test weekly for 12 weeks is really all you need. No need to stack anything bro, stick with the basic Test cycle and you will be more than pleased with results. Yes, have an AI on hand (arimidex, or aromasin) to combat estrogen if you begin to have problems, but I wouldnt run it throughout on 500mgs....crashing estro can be worse than elevated estro.
Have PCT on hand..very important. Get this first...clomid, nolvadex, maybe hcg if you feel you want it. Research pct protocols and decide how toure gonna run it. If you want a cycle kick start...maybe do prop, but thats a big maybe...read some about it, but honestly straight enenthate or cypionate best bet.
Get bloodwork done before cycle so you have a baseline...bloodwork is EASY these days and cheap. Get bloodwork midcycle to check levels, and adjust AI if necessary. Get bloodwork 6ish weeks after pct is completed to verify full recovery.
1st cycle is an experiment, but your body will react extremely on small amounts of anabolics. Keep reading and have everything planned before you start including DIET (very important). Do not stray from the plan, do not extend the cycle, do not add more compounda to the cycle....12 weeks, pct, done. Look to plan and run the next potential cycle no less than 4 months after pct if everything recovers ok.
RustyhookerRead up.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/go-research-the-spoonf...
Lol, thanks for the link. I realize this is simple, searchable info Im spitting to the OP. To be honest, all questions can be answered by a simple "do your research" response. Looks like this member put a lot of thought into his original question, and has replied to the responses. These are the types of posts I will engage when I can regardless of the "spoonfeeding" thread. Some threads are 2 sentences long with no replies from OP's for days after posted, and that is what I consider a spoonfeeder thread.
There is a diffference between helping people with the simple things that are eager to learn, and enabling laziness.
eyedeaI've got the general knowledge and am looking for deeper insight not eye rollers like rusty who snub you off to a link. There are hundreds of links with this info and they're all different. Stacks, doses, syringes, where/how to inject, kcal intake(macro info), pharma ?'s and so on. I'm going the easy route with test e only but would like to know being 33 if this is a good cycle considering my natty gains have stopped 3 yrs ago. I apologize for not going to the intro forum first to those who are sensative about that.
RustyhookerEye roller. Lol. You came here to learn but spit at folks pushing you in the right direction. Enjoy your spoonfeeding.
Another crybaby.....
eyedeaYou've made my point. Thank you.
Off topic...your name. Is it eyedea as in Idea, or I DEA? Lol.
eyedeaCan't control the subtle hints lol. It's in as 'idea'. Thanks for all the advise more knowledge helps. I've started a thread in the pct forum, now that I've got the cycle in order that's next on the check list.
Lol, fair enough. Had to ask.
eyedeaAlso, would the combi clomid and proviron be ok for pct? I think hcg would be something to take if I was stacking.
Proviron is not to be taken for pct as it will suppress your hpta. Clomid and nolvadex is the most common pct combo. Hcg is used to kickstart your nuts after they have been shutdown. When and how to use it is a debatable topic. Search pct on this forum and you will find dozens of threads.
eyedeaWow, great advise. I've decided at running test e only at 500/mg weekly. I do have an AI on hand. But I've read mixed reviews on whether to take during cycles or not. Some say .5mg eod. Some say every day. It's all over the board with the dosages! But I'd probably will not take it unless symptoms arise. I'm extremely knowledgeable about what I can and cannot eat during bulking and cutting phases. I'm probably going to go in between the two. I've experimented with countless ways of gaining with awesome and some not so awesome results. I'll do a 12wk cycle and see. I'll post precycle pics on the community forum. Like I said I'm already pretty lean at 11% bf. And that's at 170lbs and I'm 5'6". I considered prop as a kicker but decided on my first cycle I'll keep it simple and let the test flow nicely. I'm not looking to shoot out of a cannon. Not way of doing things. Post cycle is tricky but I think I'll keep it simple too. I'll post progression posts and pics.
Post BF%. Share daily diet macros and KCAL. You will need pre-cycle bloodwork, first.
Pics posted reveal 10-12% BF? Pics are u?
Good foundation for sure...
Welcome to EROIDS...
AI doses are different for everyone as we all react differently to them. This is why bloodwork is important so you can see how you respond specifically to what you are taking.
Edit: this is a reply to OP, not Med
eyedeaThanks. Regarding the blood work is that something I set up with my general prac? I know there are a great number of blood work for different things, do I just ask for testosterone work or is it more complex than that? Thanks.
Privatemdlabs.com...check ur state for availability.....female hormone panel....other pertinent lab values would be SHBG, free test, lipid profile and thyroid panel...
Honestly your not plateaued, just need to eat more and train harder. No need for juice yet just get your diet in check and you will break those plateaus with ease.
eyedeaHow do I post a pic on a forum....
RustyhookerPulldowns up top...community. ..pix...self pix.
Sorry for late reply. Hectic day
RustyhookerI'm a short midget as well. Can you post a picture to see where you are currently? And it says 175 but stuck 155? Please elaborate.
Pulldowns up top...groups.....beginning cycles.