+ 1 1st cycle question
30 years old 5'8" 143lbs lifting for 5 years.
I am looking to take gh and test as my first cycle. 300mg of test cyp the first 3 weeks then raising it to 400 for the rest of the 12 weeks (I want to see how my body reacts to it, so I'm starting out with a lower dose.)
The GH is 2iu for 2 weeks then adding an additional 1iu in the evening, after the 3 week mark.
PCT i have: nolva, clomid & hcg
I don't know if I am prone to gyno yet, so I have adex on hand. I am wondering if I should just run my cycle and see if I get nipple sensitivity/puffiness before I start adex or just be safe and start it off the bat? I personally would like to see if I am prone or not before taking a potentially unnecessary compound.
I am also considering the pct:
Nolva 6 weeks 20mg ed
HCG 3 weeks 500iu ed
Aromasin 4 weeks 20mgs ed
I would need to get Aromasin for this and would probably order Letro as well. Can anyone clean this up for me and give me a suggestion on which A.I. I should use instead of the other? Also, if you can take a look at my cycle - I am open to any suggestions! Thanks.
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You don't need gear, you need food. 5 years of training to weigh 143lbs, something going wrong here.
143lbs after a cut, but yeah I will be upping my intake during my cycle.
GH at that weight will just make you lighter bro, you wont get ANY muscle growth at all!....... and 12wks is just a waste of cash you need to run GH constant to see / feel any benefit..... and all you will see is a little bodyfat control.. THATS IT!
Your way forwards is making a close friend of your local butcher....... that! my bro is were the gains are (beef)
I have 3 kits. I plan on starting the growth earlier.
Bro, do some more reading about GH. It isn't a compound that's layed into an AAS cycle. In fact, better that GH is not "cycled" at all. 2-3 IU / day of GH in the span of 12 weeks isn't going to yield much of anything. It will be a full 2 months before you begin to see the visible effects. For bodybuilding, u r looking at a daily dose in the 4-6 IU range and if it was for comp prep it would be much higher still. I think it's a miracle drug personally - it will lean you out more effectively than a Test/Tren/Mast cutter with a keto diet.
The good news is that using a little isn't going to hurt you regardless. If you can afford GH, ramp it up and let it shine. GH has taken 10 years off my appearance. When u start GH, don't freak if you get some unpleasant sides like pitting edema (hands and feet) even edema in the throat that will cause a little sleep apnea. This is temporary. If the swelling is aggressive, I would get aggressive in managing it - I used prednisone to knock the inflammation down for a short course.
To be honest bro, I'm a little concerned that you are underweight right now and my experience is bulking you up on an AAS protocol as mild even as the one you are proposing is premature. Do you know what your BF% is? It's almost like my instincts are telling me - the guy needs to get up to like 170 ish natty before that cycle. Just my opinion.
Anyways, I'm always around - u can FR me and PM me if u want to chat.
Very best and welcome to chemical enhancement,
GearHead
weird that some people say that about GH I feel it in a week, I get sides the first night.
Your cycle is nice and conservative so that is good. The GH is good, but for PCT you are missing Clomid and that is VERY important. You probably will not need HCG. And as low a dose as you're running I think you may get lucky and not need an AI. If you do need one, I personally prefer Aromasin. But have it on standby.
I see back and forth people saying only one or the other is necessary. Do you believe that both are necessary? I did read a doctor's protocol on Meso-rx explaining how both together are needed.
I assume you are talking about the GH and Test? If so yes, they do work good together, but GH is good to run on its own as well.
Hey ICE, how would you suggest getting bloods done for hgh? Only get IGF-1 levels tested? Go on for 3 weeks then get bloodwork or pin 10ius off the bat, then get tested? I haven't started my growth yet, but wanted to check if it's legit by getting bloodwork done. Thanks
Oh I'm sorry. I didn't explain that I meant the Nolva and Clomid combo.
Both are necessary. They are the one /two punch that kick starts your nuts back into natural production brother.
What time of the day do you like to take your growth at? If you could give me specific times that would be great. Do you take it everyday throughout the week or take the 2 day off, split up in the week?
LOL, that depends how I am sitting with supply. If I am well supplied I run 6 days a week. Truthfully tho I mix it up as far as when. For the last while now I have been pinning 2iu before bed and 2iu when I wake up. If I am running low I will drop to 5 days or just at night pinnings. I do the night time pin subQ so it absorbs slower and the morning pin IM so it hits fast. Then I don't have to wait too long to eat.
Yep, no stats no help. , edit: you beat me to the punch. Man 143# Are you eating? All the test in the world won't help if you do not eat.
yes. If you saw my body type you would understand. I grew up with very thin limbs (ankles, calves, forearms, wrists) probably due to malnutrition during puberty.
Whilst I hear you, running gear isn't going to be a magic fix if your diet is what I expect it is at your current body weight. I suspect this us where we need to help you out more than with the cycle plan.
If you want me to take a look in detail at what you're eating, drop me a line and we can chat.
I understand. But you should spend some time looking up some help on the diet front. You have to eat like a horse to put on weight.
Thanks for the replies. I would toss you some Karma, but it's not letting me.
You can give karma once you've earned 50 karma points broham.. good luck.
yeah I hear you. I tend to eat clean. I will definitely be bulking during my cycle and adding more carbs and fats.
30 years old 5'8" 143lbs lifting for 5 years.
Get some stats posted up in here please.