posted Fri, 06/01/2012 - 19:51
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Second Cycle PCT Advice
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Took 800 mg A/W of Primo for 10 weeks / 50mg E/D Winstrol 6 weeks (Beginning)
Used Clomid for one month at 50mg a day....
No Problemo
Now I'm going to use Test for the first time....
Not sure how to handle the estrogen effects....
Test Prop. at 400 - 500 mg a week
Winstrol or Anavar at 50 mg a day
Should I use Nolvadex during the cycle or towards the end of the cycle or after it's done to prevent Gyno?
I'll also start Clomid the day after my last Test Shot....
I also see dosing written everywhere but never any advice as to when to start the PCT....
Thoughts?
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31 Y/O / 5'9 1/2 / 195 Lbs. / 10% Bf
2nd cycle....
Like Prop. because it doesn't aromatize / cause water retention or affect cholesterol and much as Cyp. / Enth.
Seems like a good second cycle no.?
Hi mate, sorry to cut and paste, but I posted this advice v other day for someone in similar situation:
Your obviously new to this game brother, but Il lay down some info that will help.
1- your a nube, no frontloading/kickers/prymids, no orals or multiple compounds, learn to walk first, theres plenty of time.
2- learn your body, "write down everything" you inject, eat, sides, lifts, bodyweight, water intake.. Make an Excel spreadsheet.
3- Back to basics, big heavy compound movements only, low reps, train 1 day on 1-2 days off.
4- Learn macro-nutrients (protein, carbs, fats). And how much you need.
5- Big calories = big gains! Bulk, then cut! No such thing as a lean bulk!
The Cycle:
1- 500mg test (inject 250mg on monday, then 250mg on thursday)
2- adex dosed at 0.25mg EOD, start using during cycle only "if" you need it (nipples get sensitive ect), then run it through out cycle to 1 week past last injection of test.. DONT USE IT DURING PCT!
3- Follow the standard clomid/nolva PCT 2 weeks after last injection of test.
Finally:
Get blood work done and find the fuck out whats going on inside ya!!!
Then get another one 4 weeks after your done!!!!!
Also... Drop the winny and anavar, they both stress the liver and dont keep you lean on cycle. First sign of a stressed liver is loss of appetite!!
On your next cycle add another compound if you like bro.
The trick to getting big is 1000cals consumed 8 times a day and 2 additional meals on training day (10,000cals)! Drugs dont define the outcome of the cycle, food does!!
Hope this helps ya bro, just keep researching. We all gotta start somewhere ;)
AnonNolv is a serm I believe bro its not going to keep you from building up estro nolv is for pct imo.
sgtstedankoYou've got some more research to do, brother... Stats!
31 Y/O / 5'9 1/2 / 195 Lbs. / 10% Bf
2nd cycle....
Like Prop. because it doesn't aromatize / cause water retention or affect cholesterol and much as Cyp. / Enth.
Seems like a good second cycle no.?
he needs some of homers "power sauce bars"!!
I think in spinning wheels helping the helpless. Lol
Why prop unless you just like needles. Youre about to try what listed as a tyical first cycle. With ypu being used to pinning why not the standard test cycle?
1-12wks test e or cyp
6-12 var/Winny if that'd the choice
Arimidex ready if you have gyno issues. And pct two Weeks after last shot test.
But don't take my word for it! Read those forums! I could be psycho. Forums and google/medical hospital sites show how/why. Not knowing everything is a weakness that costs your health. If you're under 25...your flat stupid. Natty hormones and proper diet will boost you to huge success! Age/weight??
Got it....
100 / 100 / 50 / 50 Clomid
40 / 40 / 20 / 20 Nolvadex
All AFTER the cycle....
Good I think?
Research. Its in forums