Masteron/Adex question
I am in my taper from a TestE cycle. I am hitting 100mgTestP, and 100mg MastP EOD for 3 weeks, before I begin my HCG blast, then into standard Clomid/Nolva therapy.
I have used this cycle to try and dial in AI dose with success. 6 weeks in, My E2 level was 166. Started adex at .25mg eod, and just last week I was at 50 E2. 50 feels like a good number to be at based on how I feel.
I am within a few weeks of PCT, and certainly do not want to crash my estro. I just added Mast last week to my prop taper (somewhat an experiment to see how I like Mast..short run to weigh results). Past couple nights have had a bit of insomnia with noticeable harder heart beat. Seems to be a side effect of Adex, or low estrogen.
My thought was, adding the Mast while still taking adex could have dropped the E2 rapidly as the MastP just starts to work. My idea is to drop the adex entirely and just run the mast/test and add in proviron for next couple weeks to control that estro level going into pct.
My bloodwork was taken 2 days ago, Mast was added 6 days ago, insomnia/heart beat started 2 nights ago. Anyone else experience this on Adex, or Masteron? Both compounds are new to me, so I am just trying to get a feel for what is causing what.
Much appreciate any thoughts.
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RustyhookerDid you skin suddenly go from oilly to dry? Slighly oilly and horney is the good spot. Dry skin, sore joints is low estro. And how you frlt when bloods showed high estro....boom.
Skin is a bit oily, but prop does that to me. Head acne has gone down, one of my clear signs of high estro...head zits suck specially when your bald. The strong heartbeat and insomnia just started 2 nights ago and is new...actually the night after my morning blood pull. Nothing too extreme, and seemed less last night than night prior. Mast is the new compound added (been running adex for 3 weeks), so must be contributing in some way.... just a guess its bringing estro lower.
Will lay off adex (today would be my eod dose day) and see. Slightly oily and horny is where I am honestly......and feel good. However I typically sleep like a baby on demand, so this change is definitely noticed in my world.
WadeBEEHmm, I have never experienced that, is the anastrozole pharma grade or UGL? It's such a gamble when it comes to UGL ancillaries, I had a buddy who was sold Nolvadex, but the UGL mislabeled and sent him clen instead. Not that I am saying that's what happened to you, just a thought.
UGL, but a good one. The adex is real deal, bloodwork shows it. Main question out of all that rambling is can Masteron crash estro when introduced to an existing AI protocol?
And does it make sense to drop adex when mast is introduced leading up to PCT.....when estro level is in a good spot.
yes mast is a pretty damn potent anti e, theres guys who keep there estro right where they want it on 2g+ of test and other aromatizing compounds with just 600mgs of mast and some provi, youre using 350mgs ew with adex and much much less test then they are, so i would say yes mast could definitely drop your estro to low in this situation. I would probably drop the adex, but thats just me. high e2 is way bettter then low e2 especially going into pct where youll have no test to bring your e2 back up to normal leves. When i crashed my e2 it took over a month to get feeling right again.
Thanks for the advice bro. I crashed my estro last cycle just before PCT with aromasin, but hcg brought me back pretty quick. This is the direction I was leaning towards, I just wanted to get some feedback from the vets on something I may be missing. As stated both adex and Mast I am experimenting with to see how my body responds to them. It definitely is consistent with what I have read regarding mast and its anti E qualities. I run provi typically as well, but find that it doesnt lower Estro, it just reduces the side effects high estro causes...for me anyway.
Thanks again Big Man, it is appreciated.
Provi is my drug of choice for controlling e2 and all its other great benefits. In my experience its actually a potent anti e, shit crashed my estrogen while on a little over 200mgs of test cyp, .25mgs of pharm grade adex twice a week kept my e2 at 28 so 50mgs of proviron was signficatly stronger then using adex on the same dose. It took a long time for my e2 to get back up for whatever reason, even with slightly upping my dose adding a few shots of prop and tne. Still took like a month to feel normal and get my sex drive and everything back again. That was not a fun experience.
Wow, amazing how everyone reacts so different. I like provi as well, but my numbers still have been 204, and 166 while taking 50mg provi daily on 2 different cycles. Estro sides at bay, but number high. SHBG low of course.
Last cycle after seeing 204 estro I kind of kneejerk reacted and grabbed some research aro...took 12.5 ed for 10 days, tested and had crashed. My PCT went brilliantly though afterwards and my 5 week post bloodwork had full rebound and then some.
A cat and mouse game we sometimes play with these levels......sometimes I wish bloodwork was NOT easy to get like the old days. Never worried about this shit before cause I never knew lol.