E2 question
I am in week 10 of a 12 week test cycle of 600mg Test E pw, and 50 mg proviron daily. Had labs done last week and it showed my estradiol at just over 200. I havent really showed any serious estrogen side effects aside from being a bit emotional. No sore nips or gyno symptoms at this time. Im so close to the end of this cycle and have nolvadex and clomid on hand for pct. I also have 5000 iu hcg in my stash.
My question is with no noticeable sides, and so close to the end of this run, should I cut it short and start pct? I have access to adex, but never used it since I never showed any high estro sides. Now that I have the numbers I am curious if anything drastic should be done, or let it play out.
My thought is to let it play out the last week and a half and ride the pct wave. Just looking for opinions.
Thanks in advance fellas.
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I went ahead and got another blood test to see where I stood after 1 week of aromasin. E2 dropped to less than 5 lol. Wonder if the first test was off for some reason. Fortunately I stopped the aromasin 2 days ago, and started a HCG dose of 1000iu every other day for 10 days before my clomid/nolv treatment. Hopefully that will bump the estro up a bit.
Never though the aromasin would drop it that quickly, but lesson learned.
Just to update, I began 12.5mg aromasin a few days ago, and I have dropped about 4 lbs. Wanted to ask if this is a good indicator of E2 dropping along with some of the water weight? Seems a little quick, but also reassuring if this is to be expected. Last pin yesterday evening, so I have to reluctantly say goodbye to the feeling of super high test levels. Boo.
Plan to continue proviron and aromasin all the way up to my clomid/nolva pct in 17 days. Thanks again for all the advice. Will definitely help me in the future....contemplating spending some time cutting down to maybe 230-240 before I consider my next run.
What were your labs before you started?
That's the first question. If you have felt no sides at all inwould ride it out and go into PCT regular.
You may have a high tolerance. This is why I preach labs before during and after brother.
You preach correct my man. The closest labs I got are 2 years ago well before I was even thinking about cycling again. It is possible my tolerance is high as last decade when I cycled regularly, I would go as high as 1250 T per week and I never showed any high estro sides back then....ai during cycle was blasphemous.
I was in the mindframe that with my moderate dose of Test, and past resistance to estrogen that the Provirons mild anti E effects would be all Id need. Thats what I get for thinking right. Im gonna post the results as soon as I get the details cropped out.
If I start suddenly balling when I see a kitten on the 9 oclock news Ill know its time to pop the AI. Definetely appreciate your insight, praise or brow beating...its all good.
No brow beating....maybe a gentle one! lol only cause I give a shit brother! I've seen you put out some good stuff in here and it has made a difference. Thanks for your patience and efforts!
I appreciate the kind words. I try to talk a lot about what I do know, and stay away from talking on what I dont know. I enjoy a good kick in the pants when Im screwing up. Old school parenting has taught me to prepare for harsh criticism if Im wrong.
Good day to you sir.
Actually proviron and mast do not prevent conversation like an ai. It does flood receptors and block the excessive estrogen. The though begin this to allow the much needed estro to do its jobs. Things like bones density and blood pressure mitigation. I do not run and ai on my cycles and I have run some really wet stacks with nothing but proviron and mast.
Good luck brother
Interesting. So that could explain a high estradiol number with minimal high estradiol sides. Unbound estrogen floating around with nothing to do. My SHBG levels were within normal range as well, so I assume the Proviron is helping to keep that low as well. I would think with 200 estradiol, the SHBG would be high as well in relation.
Its been a very informative experience pulling bloods. I think potential future cycles I will be pulling more. Definitely good news for the sources T and Proviron....they both seem to be doing their job as expected.
Thanks again for making me think and dig a little deeper.
That's one of the best kept secrets about proviron! I love how it lowers SHBG and Albumin freeing up more test actual free test does all the lifting. The total number is just a number when compared to the free test ratio! I love provi!
Absolutely, this is the first time ive run it and I think I will add it in more and more. My damned labs capped free test at >50, so I was a little dissapointed to not see the actual number. Live and learn.
opticxTake arimidex 0.25 grams up until your pct.
I'm sure you mean milligrams?
that'd be 250 pills lol
opticxUh oh I made a mistake in typing my bad lol, I ate lunch earlier and im so docile now
Haha, yeah ill grab 10k tabs and crush em in my shakes! This is the first time ive gotten bloods, back in my day it wasnt really as accessible and ai's were rarely mentioned on cycle outside nolvadex for gyno.
Much appreciate the advice.