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very high blood test levels?

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ok got my blood test back today don't have paper work on hand getting paper work faxed to me tomorrow but my overall test was 4,800 my free test was 1278 my estrogen was 2,345 and my estradiol was 437. again will have papers in hand tomorrow but has anyone seen levels this high before? Took sample in the morning three hours after waking had one meal before test. Injected day before was on three weeks. 750mg test enthate 500 deca 650 eq test p kick start 300 first week then 150 next. pinned 1 1/2 ml of test 400 also the first day I started cycle. any advice or knowledge would be appreciated. I also take .25 mg adex mon wed fri. I have recently upped to .5 going to 1 mg.

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I've seen people at these levels before. What is your hematocrit at? What are your results for liver enzymes and renal function? What is your blood pressure? where is your prolactin and progesterone (E2 being elevated, coupled with a nandrolone compound will cause those to rise) ?

Here is my advice. Immediately up your AI dosages (clearly it is way off). I would go to .5mg of adex every day, and in 3 weeks check your levels via bloodwork and adjust accordingly. Every time you change your dosage give it some time to adjust don't just jump back and forth.

You should be taking a dopamine agonist (prami, caber, ect) if your prolactin and progesterone levels are elevated.

DONATE BLOOD ASAP. Testosterone raises hematocrit, EQ is known to raise it even more. This will lower your hematocrit levels. High hematocrit is nothing to play around with and can cause severe problems like having a stroke. If I understand correctly you are. 3 weeks into your cycle, so the hematocrit most likely will not be at a super high level, nonetheless, donate blood.

I hope this helps.

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I just looked at it. Just for future reference when you quote numbers always quote the ranges, it makes it a lot easier.

I am sticking by my earlier suggestions. On top of that I would start taking Nolvadex (40mg the 1st 2days then 10mg ED) to make sure that you don't develop Gyno (your elevated E2 coupled with elevated progesterone can give it to you).

Your kidneys are slightly stressed. Your liver looks fine, take 1200mg ED of N-Acetyl Cysteine, and it will be even better.

I cannot find your hematocrit levels. Go donate blood, it's healthy for you and it gives back to the community.

Hope this helps.

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adex is an AI and will help you control your e2 by preventing the conversion of testosterone to e2.

Since you already have an elevated e2 you need a SERM to ward off gyno. Hence the nolvadex.

Progesterone usually follows e2. If you would have had your e2 in check you probably wouldn't have had an elevated progesterone level. A dopamine agonist (caber, prami, ect) will help lower your elevated progesterone levels.

From what I remember, your prolactin levels are fine. Plus elevated prolactin never killed anyone, at worst, you will have a little bit of lactation from your nipples, it goes away. Not to be confused with gyno.

NAC will help you with your liver function.

I know you don't take me seriously when I tell you to go donate blood. But everyone that does AAS has to donate blood. AAS elevates your hematocrit. If it goes too high, you will have some serious problems. This is not like gyno , where some get it others do not. EVERYONES hematocrit levels go up when they take AAS and EQ makes it go up more than any other compound.

Hope this helps.

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no not for gyno it is not nearly as effective.

clomid and nolva for PCT

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You're welcome. Blood pressure doesn't have to go up if you manage your e2 (not for all, but for most, that's all you need to do). Take Tadalafil (10mg daily) . It will help with your blood pressure, prevent inflammation of your prostate, and give you unbelievable hard ons, and judging by your avatar with your level of body fat it will increase vascularity.

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You're welcome. I wish you the best of luck.

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Doss's picture

I remember when infidel posted his with estradiol at 800+

Dickkhead's picture

E2 at a mere 800? 2 weeks ago mine was over 2300. I am feeling a bit "moody." Actually, I am running Tren and using LabCorp so the result is complete bunk. LOL

Doss's picture

Your e2 was 2300 or your total estrogen was 2300?

Dickkhead's picture

E2. This is the defect in the Roche ECLAI E2 assay when running Tren. Let me see if I can find the link on this site that describes this.

This is one of them, there are others. I'm running a decent dose of Tren and it is being read as E2.

http://www.eroids.com/pics/tren-causing-bogus-elevated-estradiol-levels-...

Doss's picture

Hmmm. Gonna have to read this link later. At the movies at the moment.

Both tren and deca have been shown to increase estrogen production.

Dickkhead's picture

With an E2 over 2,000 wouldn't I be in a pyshc ward?? Cross dressing? I mean something terrible would be happening? Nips would be lactating???? I dunnno.

Dickkhead's picture

Yes, only to estradiol. Just checked with the wife - she claims I'm the same cold, emotionally unavailable SOB as usual. All is well.

Dickkhead's picture

It was higher. Estradiol (E2) alone was over 2,000. And then there is estrone and estriol. The three add up to total estrogen. If I can find the lab - I'll post . . .