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Test p and npp same dose if also running tren ace is this ok?
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Do you know if running tren ace will allow me to run test p and npp at the same dose. Exaple test p 150eod npp 150eod tren ace 75eod. Im asking because when running deca is common to run the test higher, for libido reasons in my case.
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Hi guys was just wondering if someone could explain to me why 2 19nors being ran at the same time ie like the op is planning say....
100mg nnp.
75mg tren ace.
Why does the body not just say we're running 175mg of 19nor steroid ie 175mg of ten?
Not trying to be a dick or anything just wanting to learn ;)
RustyhookerWithout prior skills running one at various doses, how do you know what your body will do? Yes, tren goes higher with ease but combining 2 might throw decadick over the top. I haven't run that combo yet because I like simplicity. Pick a path and go for it.
Thanks brother that's exactly what I was wanting to know. Couldn't agree more about simplicity makes things so much easier.
Cheers buddy
12 week cycle
1-12: npp 100 eod
1-12: test prop 100 eod
1-12: tren ace 75 EOD
npp normally kicks in for me around 3 or 4 weeks. Have a big sack of caber at the ready. The old timer school of thought is why would you run 2-19 Nors together??? I have taken both and had good gains. Some will tell you that Ed injections keep blood levels more stable, but I've cycled eod and seen good results.
Like I said earlier it all comes down to personal experience and how advanced you are. Remember, tren is highly androgenic and npp is anabolic.
Not sure how many cycles u have ran figured by the post i would see the usual age 21-25 but I see u r 30 so figured i would try to help, a little bit of advice never run 2 19 nors at once (npp&tren) for a couple of reasons. At 30 yrs old u r setting yourself up for a disaster and a pct that probably will do u no good as u will be shutdown hard hopefully u dont have a wife or girlfriend your libido will b shot along with some nice limp dick. Plus why complicate your cycle with so many compounds. I have ran a simple test & npp cycle and had great results. It's more in the diet and workout intensity then how many compounds u can take at once. If you feel u must do 3 compounds why not test, npp, and some anavar. U can check out my pics from last spring/summer this is the 3 that i chose to run tren free had diet dialed in and busted ass in the gym ..Just my 2 cents...
You make 2 very good points. His proposed cycle has the potential to be an absolute nightmare to recover from. And why over complicate the cycle when you could produce similar results from something much more simple. But I will disagree with you 100% about the libido problems. Yes it has the potential to cause ED but it is not guaranteed. I've actually ran Test/Tren/Deca and my sex drive was thru the roof. Btw I did not run a dopamine agonist, and I ran Nolvadex the whole time.
How do you tolerate the sides with taking tren and deca alone ???? Do you suffer sexual dysfunction on either one???? That's my concern. It also comes down to personal experience. How do you plan to take each one??? Npp below test and then tren the highest??
CoblerGood libido on tren only negative was sleep and anxiety. Used some sleeping tabs which helped sleep and a good sleep helped my anxiety. No mood swings or sleep issues with deca, i did suffer poor libido on my last deca cycle, it was also my first time using aromasin with test and deca and i couldnt get the dose right and suffered for it. I was thinking tren 75eod and the test and npp at 150eod. But if running test and npp the same dose might cause libido issues then maybe lower the npp to 100eod.
The typical reason I will run Nandrolone and Trenbolone shorts together is in a prep where I am having joint pain keeping brutally heavy approaching a show. There isn't some anabolic synergy or amplification that is noteworthy in stacking those together. But, you can stack them. It's not something I would advise for a beginner. Even though they are shorts and don't build an ever increasing plasma level - and as such are not likely to cause a prolactin gyno problem where a DA is mandatory - ace is out of your system in a couple of days, phenyl prop in 5-6 days. NPP is not a substitute for Mast in a cut stack by any means. Like I said, other than joint lube, I don't see a reason for this (NPP) and I would take the dose down to something like 50 mg e3d. If this is not part of a prep just run a little deca like 150 mg / wk to water your joints unless you have the very unusual problem of an allergy to the decanoate ester which your post does not allude to. As asked below - what are you trying to accomplish?
CoblerMostly looking to lean bulk. I hold a lot of water on deca and one of reasons i will switch to short esters next year. I like pain relief from deca and i like being able to eat big on tren and not have to worry about bf, so im definatly going to try them both together and see if i get the best of both, if i dont then i wont use together again and lesson learnt. If all goes well then i will use short esters next time and seek more advice on dosage.
RustyhookerLean bulk is all bout foods. Your idea looks like a prolactin circus. Be safe
Coblerwhat kind of caber dose would you recommend, i was planning .5 e3d
RustyhookerId pick npp or tren. Simplify it with an oral and chat with food guys on bigger clean diet
first of all if you search and did your homework good you will find most of the cycle npp with test p or tren with test p , this without ask about your cycle history , about advice for your cycle i can not give an advice until know your cycle history , in some causes they use npp in low dosage for joints treatment with tren a and test p , but i dont think so this in your cause ,
complete stats
cycle history
what your trying to acomplish
CoblerThis cycle us just an idea at the moment as im making an order soon. Im really just interested to know if tren will alow me to run test and npp at the same dose and still maintain libido. Im using long ester tren deca later this year with my test higher than deca, if it goes well i will look to use short esters in the future. And before anybody asked yes i have used tren before and will use caber when i run 2 19 nors.
Ok but we still need full stats brother just a policy before we can give advise nothing personal
Cobler30
5,10
215lbs
14% bf
3 test and deca cycles
1 test tren superdrol var cycle
I have hcg, caber and aromasin for my next cycle (Messed up last cycle as couldnt get ai dose correct)
Why do you want to run two 19nors at the same time?
CoblerWhy not, its not uncommon. I like fullness from deca and the abilty to lift and not worry about joint pain. I like the tren for strengh and the ability to maintain or lose bf while eating big.
Yes I know it's done but you have no details so I wondered what your rational was. Guys have you above.