posted Wed, 11/27/2019 - 11:46
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I had been using testosterone e for 2 weeks at 500 mg/week. I didn't lost as much as I was expecting: my waist went down 2 cm, nearly 1 inch, from 78 cm to 76 cm, which translates to 30 inches. My weight is down 2.2 kg from 72.2 kg to 70 kg, which is roughly a 5 pound loss. Now I had changed to Sustanon and I had increased the dosage to 750 mg/week and I can say I feel the roid now. Do you think I can build muscle and burn fat at the same time using this amount of product while in a calories deficit?
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first thing yes you can build muscle and burn fat at the same time with a calorie deficit (but not too much dificit)
} if you just want to continue on your own the make sure you understand how to do pct so you can recover after your cycle and its a must to keep your estrogen in control or you may regret if you get any sides.
second 750 mg/week sust is too much and you felt it quicker because it has a mix of long and short esters and not because you increased the dose, while the test e is long ester which means it take more time to kick in.
so as i assume its your first cycle so i really advice you to check how to do your first cycle {you will find alot of info in the forum
best of luck in your cycle
Everything bad here, kid.
Rustyhookeri gave ya 2 back to get you towards 0 newb again. Not sure why ya got negged when ya didnt argue.
Dude, you should not be on gear at all. Sorry but diet and gym could get an atheletic base first. Then try gear inly if its even needed.
I think you need to re-think what you're doing!
The KMC Rewards Program springs into action.
I'm done here.
Just for shits and giggles please explain your goals on this cycle and why you chose to run it. Also, your training history would be helpful.
Lots of us will be happy to help you to reach your goals but dont jump into the deep end without knowing how to swim bro
1 looking at your profile pic you don't need aas
2 you really dont know how esters work
3 testosterone is not a weight loss med
4 dumbest comment I've seen in awhile
Come on man...
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Alphamale500First of all, why are you using 500mg/wk of test e to lose weight? Also, why would you even expect it to have any effects whatsoever after just 2 weeks? Test e takes roughly 6 weeks to build up in your body to start showing any effects. And the reason that you're feeling the effects after switching to sust is because of the short ester propionate which is in it.
But there's absolutely no reason to be using a high dose of any form of testosterone when trying to lose weight. Of course exogenous testosterone is known to help burn fat, but not the way you're doing it! You're going to retain a lot of water from that dose of test, no matter your calorie intake. If you're looking to cut up, you're much better off running a dry compound with a low dose of test. A high weekly dose of test is certainly not the right way to recomp.
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AnonFat thumbs.. nobody in their right mind would neg this. It's 100% fact..
I didn't neg you, but I would. This community is here to help each other. Not to be assholes. If someone started using aas and fucked up cus they didn't know what they were doing I would (to the best of my ability) direct them to the right way.
I would not immediately knock them. We all start somewhere bro
Rustyhookernot dogging you but the op is seriously negged for not knowing what hes doing. Like hes gonna come back and listen?
Agreed. He definitely doesn't have a clue. Was giving him the benefit of doubt but it doesn't seem he has anything else to say.
RustyhookerHope hes at least researching.
Happy thanksgiving bro!!
AnonYeah I'm a little "testy"..I've been using steroids..sometimes it's hard to turn off when I see these posts..if you can't handle a few insults you're in the wrong game. People check people occasionally and it keeps you grounded. Sometimes people do things that are so stupid that it warrants a slap. He needs help, yes, but he also dove head first into a world of fuckery without even BASIC knowledge. It's now time for damage control, you can do it however you like, I have no problem with it. But I also don't have a problem with telling someone they are retarded when they act recklessly.
But I digress, the negs are there for a reason, they're reminders that what you've said or done goes against what other find true, or helpful. Or the opposite of course. It takes all types! Assholes and helpful people, I believe we all play both parts at one time or another and today I chose asshole. Maybe tomorrow I'll have more patience.
You are right though, about the community.
For sure! We all are assholes from time to time. I'm not defending OP because it's silly what he is doing but if he came here looking for legit help and we jump down his throat on his 1st post then what good is this place? You, me, and everyone else that has run sensible cycles knows this is silly but before we force dude out of here with negativity let's see what he says.
Maybe we can change his mind and help him in the future.
AnonAlright, I can't argue with that logic, let's start with square 1.
1. Diet
He's small, imo too small for someone with a proper diet. Without the proper diet you wont hit your goals!
2. Workout history and split, is he hitten them wheels!? Heavy compound movements for beginners gets them up to speed, full body splits 3 days a week works, but there are maaannnny programs.
3.Gear basics. Test E is a decently long ester, effects aren't truly rolling until week 4-6, everyone is different.
Sust is a combination of different lengths of esterfied test. Short med and long. If it's actually sust..
4. Most important is PCT!!! this comes before the cycle!!! If you don't have a plan to recover you're going to have a bad time and lose gains..also you're natural production of test will be hit hard and take months to recover without help.
It's be nice to know why he's cutting being so skinny..I think his goals are weird and not thought through..but they're his, not mine..
Alpha had a good point on running a lot of a wet compound to cut, it's counterproductive..teensy bit of test and 100% diet/exercise routine will suffice.
There. That's my productive, helpful, and genuine response. Usually it's reserved for someone who is a little more on track, but it's obviously more needed by those not anywhere close..sometimes Id rather discourage use by these individuals, but I probably looked like him when I started...SMH..
Haha, I recently found a pic of me with my shirt off before I ever ran anything and I thought dam! I was weird looking. Lol
No hard feelings bro, I can come across as a dick sometimes but I rarely mean anything by it.
AnonYeah I found one of me from 10 years ago..not..pretty..
Spindly little fucker! My face looks huge now lol I can definitely see some changes. Around 80lbs!
And don't worry about it, I reserve feeling insulted for personal attacks. You weren't wrong about what you said, so I've taken no offense. I am well aware that sometimes I need to not be such an ass, I do enjoy it at times. But if the general consensus is that it's inappropriate, I have no problem dialing it back lol
80lbs of beef is freaking awesome man!
The pic I found of myself showed that I never skipped shoulder day but apparently skipped chest, back, arms, legs etc...
It looks like I used synthol on those medial delts. Lol.
You seem to have no clue how AAS works.