Prolactin induced gyno is not physiologically possible?
Is this legitimate information?
Source: https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/myth-buster-prolactin-tren-d...
Excerpt:
" Myth: You need to take caber if you are running Deca/tren because it will give you bitch tits.
Common forum lore states you need to run caber with tren/deca. It has been my personal experience that prolactin and Tren/Deca have 0 correlation. This has been found in literature as well.
If there is a correlation, it is between estrogen and prolactin. Which leads to the second myth buster in this thread.
Prolactin induced gyno is not possible physiologically. Prolactin alone create glandular tissue. If you have a high estrogen, it is the culprit for said "gyno" not prolactin.
In conclusion: Do not spend your money on caber, it serves no purpose. Well, caber is used to treat acromegaly.
Acromegaly is a condition where your brain produces too much igf-1/hGH. So this medication will lower IGF-1/hGH, but what importance could that be to us weight lifters?
Sorry if this post seems arrogant, just busting a myth. "
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I'm glad you're doing okay. No one wants to be an addict, but you are and always will be. You just have to choose not to use. The protocol for going down on methadone is a proven one, but it can be frustrating. It's to help people succeed. I know many of the places are just legal drug dealers, but so are bars.
Just don't get sidetracked with reasoning or the like. Focus on staying clean, especially when things aren't going well. Get or stay in the gym and do your research about aas.
There are lots of people here that can and will help you with making the right choice there.
Lol thanks i appreciate it, are you a drug counselor? you sound like the counselor from the methadone clinic, i got strange looks their the nurse's were asking why i was there, the doctor thought i was just there to try and get high, i hadn't taken anything and my system was clean, so there i am looking about as healthy and well as the medical staff trying to explain why i wanted to enroll, i had to go take a pill and come back the next day just to have dirty urine so they would accept me, i had plenty of leftovers from the last prescription i was given and thought i was doing the rite thing by going to the clinic instead of taking anything more before it turned into a problem, a few days into it i realized methadone was making me high and way stronger than what i was going there for in the first place! So i left and am just dealing with my body being a little out of wack, i feel like ive burnt myself out and just need to rest, if youve ever over trained and know what that feels like
Not a counselor. Like I said, I have a close friend who manages one and we have talked over the years. I've also had friends who have been through it. I think it's a good program is run right and if people follow what they should do. It's a hell of a lot better than doing smack or illegially obtaining pills and all the physical abuse that goes with that.
Be proud of yourself and find ways to cope. You will have down day when you want to use and good days when you want to use as well. It's all about finding new things to occupy your time.
Lifting and building your body is a great way to help.
Well I hope in your case that you really put away the tren. @ 150 lbs and methadone still in the system you are playing with fire. Use your head. At your weight you should be gaining at least a lb a week easily without any AAS
Methadone has a half life of 24hrs ive been off it about a week and a half, their are no opiates in my system , yes, the tren is put away, i responded to it very well tho, i ate more yesterday and this morning than i ever have in my life i was using 45lb dumbbells last night with ease when i normally use 20lb high reps, the blood pressure spike was a little too intense tho, had to drink massive amounts of water, And had to breath very deep and heavy, if this was tren placebo i should just save my $ and get some sugar pills and label them Tren Ace lol
Consistency is the name of the game here. Every day you need to be eating big, no days off from it.
No taking the weekend off to go party or any of that shit.
The (real deal) guys you see here have devoted their every moment to achieve their physique.
Hard work yes, but if that is what you are trying to achieve then I can tell you it took a shit load of food, time and will, to accomplish it.
Didn't happen overnight and most had a solid weight base before using gear.
I'd love to see you back here 30-40 lbs heavier and ready for the next step. Make it happen with the simple tool of food.
Yes sir'
Stats
Age: 30
Height: 5'10
Weight: 150
BF: 14%
Why would you even consider running tren with those stats?
Oh for fuck sakes smfh another one . doesn't need tren anytime soon.
I keep pulling up stories of people running really low doses on first and 2nd cycles or using tren ace as a kick start (instead of dbol etc) while waiting fort the test E to start showing itself, so i was curious, i cant seemt to find anyone's end results using low dose tren ace and i never seen any of the OPs coming back with a horror story
Does that not give you a red flag?.......... meaning they are NOT getting any results?
The fridge should be your best friend bud............ NOT trenbolone......
And to end all this jostling post up a self pic.... lets have a look at ya bro! then i will tell you what actions you need to take next.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/natty-self
Big time food intake and gut wrenching compound lifts in the gym............. forget isolation movements at this point bro... aim for ultimate mass and power.
BIG FOOD.
BIGGER TRAINING.
EVEN BIGGER REST.
Set your goal to gain a good 40lbs before you even contemplate gear bro...... the more you learn about gaining natural the better it will make anabolic gaining........ trust me.
+3 for having the guts to get that picture up
I wish we could do a Viking mind meld on him. MMA you are being offered a huge gift of knowledge right here, right now. If you do the diet and the work up front it will pay huge dividends and best of all you will not be beholden to the needle.
This guy is in perfect condition for really letting rip bro... he is a great natty shape and ANY size he puts on will look super impressive with that tight waist.
Guys like this are the ones that i can really transform in super fast time when i have them in a gym........... and they tend to listen and respond even better when they can see me eye to eye....... it creates a solid feeling of belief when they can actually see the guy giving the instructions doing the work with them side by side.
Im going to go ahead and be honest with you all since your being honest with me and taking the time to guide and coach me, i did infact only purchase Test E, an AI and pct, their was a shipping delay and as a bonus the source added the EQ and Tren Ace for free, i assume the EQ is to help cut the 500mg per ml test to help with pip since a single bottle of EQ is useless, prior to receiving the plethora of amazing responses on this thred , i did pin 500mg test E on Saturday, started feeling the increased libido and sence of well being within 24hrs or so, sunday night i got cocky and thought id pin 50mg of tren ace, and yes its fucking strong as hell , the vascular response and pumps are intense however i can tell its too much at this point, the only negative im feeling is the increase blood pressure is pushing on a nagging tooth and causing some aggravation resulting in a slight headache, asprine helps. Needless to say i will not be pinning the tren agin anytime soon, and i should go ahead and not use the test agin as well? If i stop now and continue natty i should be ok when i am ready to go on a true first cycle? Or should i just continue withh the test E weekly....? Thanks, sorry, dont kill me!!! Lol
Good job, I am now done here, good luck to you since you ignored all the great advice we gave you.
BTW, welcome to placebo world, test e takes weeks to kick in not hours. smfh.
Since your doubting my sincerity im going to continue without aas over the next 90days and post up the photos as a response to your challenge
Not ignoring your advice, im relying on it, i pinned the Test and Tren before reading the replys punish my stupidity if you must
Nice redemption. Get back on track with your goals.
I was told by trt docto your test levels become elivated within 24 to 48hrs u dont feel any strength gains or muscle increase untill 4 weeks or so in, i jad sex about 48hrs later the erection was like steel and orgasm so strong i couldn't stand up, ive mastered the art of semen retention a long time ago and couldn't hold back at all, and as far as the tren theres no fucking way its placebo, i ate 13 times yesterday im still Hungary and haven't taken a shit yet
And as i said before i pinned that test BEFORE all the responses, i did not ignore your advice i am heeding it rite now, i jumped the gun, would you rather i lie? I feel dumb enough as it is , i pinned the test and tren before your responses
Its placebo, blood saturation and muscle engorgement happens 3-5 weeks after introduction of enanthate, prop is 7 days, ace is roughly 48-72 hours TRT patients see it faster because they are already on chemical hormone replacement. You would be AMAZED at how your brain operates; have you ever seen any placebo studies? Take a look at some of them.
I believe you, also i think my T was compromised from the past opiate use, i wasn't expecting anything to happen at all, but my blood pressure went up, so did my libido out of nowhere, ive never eaten so much or had such intense organism, if thats placebo i wana learn how to control that because it was out of this world and i wasn't looking for it either lol
agreed, he has a great starting point and that alone shows he very well could show dedication. Once he gets his ass in that kitchen and eat like the world is coming to an end he could gain a solid 15 pounds and maybe more in 90 days scientifically proven based on his frame and lean size.
For sure bro........... easy gaining if he nails the calories (any calories)........ added size will lead to addes strength which in turn will build lean muscle which as we all know needs fuel!... that would why he would need a dirty bulk to give free calories just to fuel the metabolism............. fat control will be nothing he has to worry about, the added muscle will create the inner furnace and burn calories for fun.
im looking forward to his updated pics in a month, I want to see the progress. I would fkn kill for his abs but then again I only have myself to blame for not already having them lol.
lol..... summers coming bro........... recalculate carb intake and up the work load!.. BINGO 6 pack appears like magic
Dont rely on cardio.... hit the weight it burns fat during and for hours/days after......... aerobic activity burns fat while doing it and for maybe an hour after............ its a no brainer..... hit the weight!!
i just started my carb decline over the weekend, hoping my body catches up because its leaving me real tired and un motivated.
Understood, thank you V
Viking summed it up for you, you need to put on some serious size my friend, get over to the bulking section and build your foundation. Abs are impressive, the rest needs major work. Tren is worthless in your condition and you need some bulking even a dirty bulk could help you out.
Thank you for advice and complement, i will keep working at it and eating big
thats the best answer and approach, plus 1 for that. After only a month of eating big you look in the mirror and beam with pride what you accomplished.
Best kick start for you is high dose steak.
+3