posted Tue, 07/23/2013 - 06:03
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I am a newbie and want to take a cycle of injectable... I have done oral's multiple times, and had gyno symptoms from superdrol. Also several orals have given me irritation in my throat kind of like having a cold. Possibly from EO?
I've heard Tren is the best for lean gains, and that it also prevents Aromatose... I've been looking at Hulk, but not sure what I need... Do I need to take test with the tren? Because of my history with gyno, should I take anti estrogen? What do you take for post cycle?
Thanks guys, I wanna make sure I do this right.
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WithdrawlFirst thing you need to do is lots and lots of research. Use the search feature above and also google. Get as much info as you can and become very knowledgeable before you begin. No one is going to be able to tell you everything you need to know in one reply here. With that said, there is absolutely NO BENEFIT to use anything other than just testosterone for your first injectable cycle (preferably enanthate or cypionate). Nothing else, just test. 400-500mg a week for 10-12 weeks. You absolutely must take an aromatase inhibitor like aromasin or arimidex to keep your estrogen at a healthy level, ESPECIALLY with a past history of gyno. Like I said man, keep doing research on your own and learn all you can before you start a cycle.
First cycle. Def don't go with tren. Lol. Straight test. It's awesome honestly. Save tren for few cycles later.
NO TREN brother! Stats?
Lets set you up a set test only cycle four your first, you will achieve great gains if done correctly!
What about peptides, would similar gains be seen from them with fewer sides?
If by peptides you mean GHRH etc then you will see fewer sides but also a lot less muscle. The growth hormone release isn't large enough for substantial muscle gains as well as injecting 2-3 times a day to get decent hormone spikes.
Yes bro test e will be your friend!!
Great, I will begin researching the injectable test. Can someone message me if they know of a trustworthy Dr. in Houston, Tx. Not for purchase, but I would like someone to monitor my levels throughout the cycle. I appreciate the input guys! I'll post back in a month or so with results.
Firstly if this is your first injectable cycle like the others suggest Test E 500mg for 10 weeks. You have gyno history so aromasin would be best as an AI and have letro on hand. PCT would be clomid and nolva, 50mg and 20mg respectively for 4 weeks. (2 weeks after last injection.)
To answer your questions you need test with tren. However even though it does not aromatise gyno can still happen as it is a progestin. As well as aromasin and letro you would also need caber. If you do get gyno then you have to figure out if it is from oestrogen or prolactin and then how to treat. Tren a would need to be used for your first tren cycle to test your tolerance and so it can be dropped easily if the sides prove too much. Daily injection (Test E once or twice a week) would also be required for tren a. This is why tren is more for the advanced user, I haven't even touched on the other tren sides.
In essence it is a lot simpler and safer to use the test cycle suggested above for a first time as you don't even know how your body reacts to injectable test.
Because I have a history of Gyno symptoms, of which I take Tumeric which made swelling and pain go away. Should I take something with the test to suppress prolactin and estrogen? I appreciate the tips guys, this is why I ask. I wanna do this the right way.
Slow it down abit, tren is a very powerful drug and should only be used by people with years of history with AAS. If your looking for your first injectable cycle, stick with good'ol fashioned test E. and if you want to know what to take for AI and PCT look at arimidex, aromasin, clomid and nolvadex. Research them on the forums, theres so much info here just click a few times and you will find all the answers your looking for.
Your not ready for Tren brother, you have yet to even inject a simple testosterone!!! Tren is 5 times more powerful than TEST and yes you do have to use them together so your libido doesn't crash to the floor with tren. Take something simple like Test- C or E, its a long estered test and the best part is you only have to inject twice a week. I think your gains would be great around 500-600 MG of test a week with say 20MG of anavar spread throughout the day. say 10Mg in the morning and the other 10Mg around late afternoon!
I def would not, repeat would not recomend Tren way to strong for a newbie, unless its fake! Good Luck BRA