+ 3 Lets talk about a alternitave way to use TNE or Suspension
I have read and talked to a lot of guys that use TNE or suspension as a pre work out only, let me suggest a alternative way to get the most out of this compound. I have used this every which way till a teammate of mine several years ago turned me onto a different way of using this. I use TNE right before my biggest two protein meals of the day and for me that's usually lunch and dinner where I consume a small cow or two. once I started to inject the hormone this way I noticed my gains was improving and not just wasted as a little boost in the gym ( I think for most that's just in peoples head). some people may say Gym your wrong but ive done a lot of reading and from my personal experiences with using it this way I feel it helps really give a boost in protein synthesis when you have that big meal, I look at it as putting jet fuel in the dragster I can just vouch from my personal experiences that it works that's all... but hey just wanted to drop a little of knowledge and a alternative for you folks.
unless your very experienced with using aas and have a damn head on your shoulders do not use this sides can and will get out of hand fast if you don't use it right. this is not for everyone nor will I be held liable if your grow bigger boobs than me.
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Never tried it with a oral did u notice a difference
RustyhookerFirst dose hour pwo with 2 servings oats, 50 g whey and honey. Pumps were insane! Morning gym.
Did same when I was doing midnight workouts, just offset dosing by half life.
Interesting method for orals, did you notice a difference in the effects when the PWO meal had carbs in vs when the PWO meal did not?
RustyhookerWith dbol yes. Its such a fast ester that it was night and day. Think about your pumps on a hard cutter. You dont get that full pump like you do on carb loaded bulker. Carbs...the pump makers
Rustys spot on, just 5-10mg of dbol increases protein synthesis by a crazy percentage. Mg for mg it's far more powerful then testosterone, and much less painful then a 1-2 shots of tne. Taking if before meals will dramatically increase protein synthesis, accomplishing the same thing as a shot of tne. And if you're taking 40-50mg Ed you can take 10mg with 4-5 of your meals.
And I'd assume you could compound that by splitting 50mg ED between 5 meals, and then running a 2on2off protocol no? That way you could get the increased synthesis and nutrient shuttling, maximizing the use of oral compounds but still giving the organs a break during the off period, correct?
That would be the ideal way if using dbol soley for increasing protein synthesis during meals, 2 on 2 off so you could run it all cycle. But that's not ideal at all if your using the dbol for mass gain also. Drol works great in that fashion but dbol isn't the same. For whatever reason drol will throw some muscle on you in just two weeks it kicks in hard and fast and quickly stops while dbol takes a little longer to build some actual muscle, I'm sure you'd get a little boost during those two weeks but not like taking drol 2 on 2 off. I don't see why anadrol wouldn't work, if you're running 75-100mgs Ed you could take 25 before each meal. I haven't tried it though when I run it I usually take it am and preworkout never 3-4 times ed.
Interesting comparison between drol and dbol. I may just have to give this method a shot next time I'm running a cycle and note how I feel on it. I'd also imagine that spacing Drol out between 4 meals or so would lead to stabler blood levels and wouldn't cause a big blood pressure spike the way taking it in two doses does, especially before the gym.
RustyhookerDrol halflife 16 hours so spacing isnt as regimented. Dbol is roughly 4
It's not 16 hours it's more like half that, between 8-9hrs. Wasn't saying it was necessary to split 4 times per day, re read my post.
RustyhookerIf one was to experiment with a bigger picture of shuttling, the research on peptides is interesting. Im not knowledgeable yet, still reading. But its exciting with potential
Same on this end, there are a lot of different peptides & even SARMs which look very interesting. I have experience only with CJC1295 and with GHRP-6, but hopefully over the coming months will take the plunge with other peps, just to experiment and log the results. Very interesting time we live in with all these new options on the market, but I'm also wary of it at the same time...
StevebA lot of SARMS are junk.
RustyhookerHumpnpump has a Group just for peps.
Oh I'm aware of that, lots of good info in there. Great place to start learning and branching out from there.
I've always taken orals right before my session... But I will probably end up giving this method a shot next time I run a cycle...
So basically the layout would be:
0 hour: Oral
+1 hour: Meal (carb heavy on a bulked, no carbs on a cutter)
+1.5 hours: Workout session
+3 hours: Post workout meal
Have you noticed the effect continuing after the workout to the post meal? Do you think/ have you noticed dosing orals this way alleviates the lethargy associated with heavy carb PWO meals?
I know this sort of detracts from the TNE discussion, but as I have no experience running TNE and you're using the same strategy for orals, I am quite interested in new/alt protocol.
RustyhookerIm old style with whey coffee mix with the carbs. So not having lethargy. Dbol I feel very focused so soon as im hitting weights, its on. Good pumps on winny too. Tne....same timeframe but short and medium chain carbs in pwo foods.
Im still learning tne and the jist of this post. Adds a lil focus. I think the ideal gymjunkie is posting about is right on track. Learning your body and estro control is a key.