posted Mon, 01/20/2014 - 08:13
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cut cycle question
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ok guys I have been doing a lot of research on my first ever cut cycle this spring I have always did my cutting with diet and cardio. I have ran 11 bulk cycles and have used most forms of test/ tren/ decca/ masterone, but I have never ran a cut cycle. I will throw up the compounds I am thinking and if I could just get a little feed back from EXPERIENCED guys that have ran cut cycles I would greatly appreciate it.
36 years old
6 feet 4 inches
260 pounds
as of today I am hovering at 13% BF
these are the compounds I am looking at running? any feed back would be appreciated.
Test Prop
tren ace
Mast prop
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Personally this is how i run these 3 compounds pre-comp.
Prop @50mg ED
Tren @100mg ED
Mast @100mg ED
Now!.. if you really want to get totally ripped.. like sub 5%.... Methyltrienolone is the way to go instead of tren ace.
Regarding Var or WINNY..... these compounds are out-dated and for female use only in bodybuilding circles.
viking i sent you a PM about Methyltrienolone hope its alright
I have zero knowledge on methyltrienolone so I'm gonna stick with what u suggested. I really appreciate the input thank you
What dose of Methyltrienolone do u use bro? My coach says not to exceed 500 mcg / day and 3 weeks. How does that compare with your experience? I just spoke with him so I asked. I haven't tried it yet but I'm gonna. And, oh shucks, I still dry out with injectable Winny. Has something replaced that while I was looking the other way. LOL
Agreed 3 weeks use is paramount bro due to the unbelievable toxicity.... what i do is run ACE for 7wks then hit MT for the last 3wks upto comp.... i can handle 1ml ED which is 2000mcgs.
I have tried to run it longer (6wks) but had to pull out due to jaundiced eyes +skin.... so 3wks is my sweet spot.
Suzy b (the mrs) ran it for 3wks also on the run =up to the universe last year @1000 mcgs ED and she was razor sharp...... check her pic "Drier than the dessert" in her profile to see what results it gave bro.
mast is the NEW winny bro
Well, I'm starting to feel outdated LOL. I got a prep coach that's got such a fear of water he's always had me drop Mast the last week as well as I said below while I'm knee deep in Winny that Viking says is now for the ladies. LMAO. I don't want to loose out cause they guy next to me has nothing on me except a better gear strategy esp when I'm a regular contributor to a gear forum. (Oh, I am laughing). A good prep coach is mucho expensive and I expect him to be on top of all of it. It probably is simply the case that Viking is a better coach than my guy. Maybe I could find a job in the UK??? Please don't crush my fantasies.
LOL.... i prep people full time bro, thats what i do!... been prepping for shows since i was 23yrs old so ive learned a few tricks along the way hahaha..... i prep males and females for top shows and have great success which makes me very fkn happy indeed.
These days it is my source of income so it must done properly.. no short cuts no fucking around, you know the script at this level its fine lines between success and failure, and i HATE to fail or let my people down so it gets my full attention from A-Z 24/7 365.
If you notice brits always come out a lot harder than americans these days due to different prep protocols etc... you guys like the 300lbs cut look were we would sacrifice 20/30lbs in max weight to come out ripped to the bones.... different courses for different horses i suspect :))))
Regarding the better coach comment........... like anything else in life a coach is only as good as his last result!!........... NUFF SAID!
I will be looking to carry on doing what i do way into my 70s if all goes well.... that must prove my level of passion within this sport i call my life.
I do run Test/Tren/Mast as a cutter all the time but leading up to a comp coach has me on Winny injectable with that horrible PIP for the last few weeks. So, you're saying just keep running Mast in some fashion and drop the Winny - it's unnecessary. I also run GH - we drop that 2 weeks before the show so the Sub Q
bloat can subside but he always told me Winny was necessary to assist in that process as well?
Dropping GH is correct IF you are suseptible to subQ water...... once that water has gone hit the Abombs on carb load to bloat the muscle bellies and make em so hard it hurts..... viens have nowhere to hide on this protocol and end up looking like they are growing on the outside of the skin.
X2........... gives the ability to flex hard on stage without the joints creaking and whining lol
Test prop 50mg eod
Tren ace 100mgeod
mast 50mg eod
i ran 2;1 tren ; test ratio, i got ripped, my ABSolute favorite cutter.
RustyhookerI'd skip the tren.. Cardio sucks. Hiking, jogging, marathon sex sucked.
Prop...mast....var or winny
lmao .. do you think the var is worth the money for the results you get? I
RustyhookerVar was better for strength. Winny was fun as well. Preserving muscle while manipulating carbs works great. I didn't enjoy trens pct..
I have a love hate relationship with tren. sometimes I run it and im good sometimes I get horrible sides and drop it mid cycle, that's why when I do run it its always ace so it gets out quickly
RustyhookerYour thinking and action is smart in that regard. I'm old thinking in that i like lil hassles and more gym time. I keep screwing up by dropping carbs too low when cardio is high. Lol.
I will take a crack at it. All three compounds are great provided you do not get terrible sides from Tren. If you are one of the guys that has to suffer on a Tren cycle I would substitute something else. So here's a brief rundown.
Test Prop 50mg ED
Tren Ace 75mg ED
Mast Prop 75mg ED
HCG EOD 150 IU
AI and DA According to bloodwork and your past experience for management of sides.