wow guys this is my favorite thread so far I will be 40 in 10 days so this really hit home. I am starting my first real cycle soon I am gonna be using test e dbol and thinking deca a few people told me to skip the deCa but I would like more feed back from guys my age and ones that refer to the selves as silverbacks thanks

Do a lot of research on the bodies axis and hormones in general for your age in addition to some great advice here and a little more I will give you to get you started. You are comparing apples and oranges when asking about the 2 variations in age. I have used gear since 1986 and the answer to the question above is yes and no. The question is asked as though there is 1 thing to compare between the 2 and there are many. You will respond much faster in many ways and much slower in many ways. The brains job in all of this is to process data and balance all the hormones present in the body. So taking 2 components to start, testosterone and growth hormone; one triggers the other with the axis and vice versa. If your body produces a larger amount of test for example than do the glands for growth hormone the brain wants balance and attempts to give you more growth hormone unless there is a degree of homeostasis in which case "the loop" will try to discard the excess testosterone because the brain is thinking "if it aint broke dont fix it". So ironically enough as bodybuilders we think....lets break it! lol...so here we go on this path to make the body think it needs more of one or the other by not allowing the loop to achieve homeostasis and therefore getting the brain to kinda play along with our crazy ideas. It gets very complicated (more than I can understand)so you have to learn as you go taking one compound at a time and seeing how your body reacts...IF you are simply looking to lean up and look and feel better I would in my personal opinion tell you to Get some enanthate, propianate, hgh and deca. Maintenance levels could begin at a half cc of enanthate and a quarter cc of deca once a week and 2iu's of hgh a day. At your age your whole world will change! You could run through your 10ml bottle of deca and then begin using the prop at a half cc every 3 days until time to start over. A maintenance level for you is like being 25 again so you are not subject to the same rules as a 25 year old when it comes to "off cycle". Your cycles can be much longer considering your prop runs as off cycle with it being your "clean period". Many people will tell you have equal time off cycle as compared to on cycle and those are good guidelines until 35 or 40 years old and the guidelines change. The reason they are different for you is because the 25 year old will drop back to "great test levels" off cycle..if you use his off cycle you will plummett in test. Its why you don't let 25 year olds put you on there regimine, great for them and not so much for you. If you are looking for something more than maintenance and want to build we are the silverbacks in human comparison and the right stacks with a good diet and a lot of hard work will get you there kinda described by b di stefano in his experience here. If you do decide on hgh/test regimine research T-3/T-4 use with hgh if you decide to take it to the next level (above 2iu's daily) and just do a lot of research and reading anyway to understand what you are doing. Rely on big names and Authors, university studies etc in conjunction with "thread posts". Mainly confirming "thread posts) I will pop in a good link here to help for now as it pertains in part to my opinions here..I say opinions because that is all we can give you based on our experiences which will be different to some degree than yours http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/anthony-roberts/thyroid-and-growth... I dont think this one refers to the testosterone use specifically if I recall but it is assumed you will use test given the axis............having said all of this HGH is not a must as you will cause some growth output using the gear without it. At your age, close to mine, I can tell you there is nothing like the 2 and you have to remember, hgh creates new cells where the gear alone only increases the size of existing cells (a very different thing and why the 2 work so well together). Now I use much higher levels than described above but again, your goals will dictate the compounds and quantities and you never described your goals. I had a lot of people help me coming up and I like to pay it forward so if you need help keep coming and what we can't answer we can help you find. START SLOW!!! Good luck