posted Fri, 08/05/2011 - 18:31
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Deca as a Standalone cycle?
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Just starting up. Don't think Im ready for the jump to Test just yet. Thinking about Deca 200mg a week for 8 weeks as a nice in-between (results vs. side effects ratio).
Any thoughts?
LBL
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No do not use deca on its own,you need test mate...
ive already said in your other post about deca,what deca can do to you on its own! it will shut you down! completely! even 1 shot of 100mg of deca completely shuts down your testosterone production. a deca only cycle will be very hard to recover from. TEST IS BETTER FOR YOU THAN DECA ON ITS OWN! it seems that everyone who begins thinking about taking steroids these days thinks that deca is safe and it can be done by its self, its not a good idea, and you will feel horrible. there is no "jumping" in to test, your jumping into deca. and 200mg of deca will do nothing for muscle growth, you will more than likely only see the "lubrication" effects and you wont see your dick for weeks and months. o and no test either. but your going to do what you want to do know matter what we say if your mind is made up, its made up. there aint mothing we can do to stop you, were just trying to talk some since in your head, i been doing this along time bo, and its stupid to do a deca only cycle.
if you dont want to do a test cycle then go with a oral. you would see more results from that anyway. 30mgs of dbol per day for 4 weeks would do more good than deca at 200mgs for 8 weeks. or even anavar, tbol, etc.
The cat's below really know what they are talking about LBLeroy.
Deca will hit your HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular/Axis)so hard that your dick will be limp for weeks if not months.
Don't go looking for trouble and listen to the cat's below and do a combo.
Everyone will react differently to different compounds. However, with that being said.....a version of TEST should ALWAYS be a part of a good cycle. You dot want decadick. Testosterone is hands down the most needed element in a cycle. Now which ester you choose is totally up to you. Sustanon is by far one of the most powerful and used testosterone blends. A first time user can easily reach 20lbs of gain in a month from 500mg/week of sustanon alone. If you combine that with deca or dbol then you can add a few more pounds to that. If this is your first cycle ever, then prepare to blow up pretty damn quick. The first cycle is ALWAYS the best. I know the more you read the more you get confused sometimes....but just remember...TEST should always be a part of any good cycle. Good luck bro. Enjoy!
Much appreciated bro. I just think that the "Frist week" cycle you suggested seems like a lot. Maybe Im just a little nervous about injecting like 3 or 4 different things along with oral ancillaries but what would you suggest for a cycle with only 2 or 3 diferent gears? I see Test seems to be generally a "cant-roid-without" kind of supplement so I would assume that would be in there. But I also here that Deca has much fewer androgenous side-effects with similar results. I get what your saying about how it blocks your bodys natrual Test production so maybe Test, Deca, and one of the AI or Estrogen Receptor Blockers?
If Im looking for an "ideal" cycle thats not possible dont hesitate to tell me lol. Im just not trying to get hella jacked right away. about 20-30 more lbs and I'll be good.
Not sure where you got the injecting 3 or 4 different things. The post states for first cycle
So... how does this all translate into an actual first cycle:
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 250mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
Optional: Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)
Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole Every other Day (EOD)
Weeks 4-12: 500iu's of HCG per week (2 injections of 250iu's, same days as test, but not in the same syringe)
PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
give this a read, bro
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-run-cycle
Not a good idea unless your dick is just for decoration.