Dbol help please??
Hey im sorry if this has already been answered before but im pretty new to taking steriods etc... i have spent the last 3 weeks taking 30mg a day of lixus labs dbol and on my final week now having 40mg a day.
I havent put on a huge amount of weight...i am a hard gainer normally but i have struggled to eat due to uni etc and blooody lectures in the way and getting out of bed too late....but ive put about 3-4kg on. however i havent put on a huge amount of water retention but feel stupidly strong..i only weigh 66/67kg but i can now dumbell chest press 45kg's in each arm..not bad lol. i will upload some pics soon..but my mates have said i have filled out quite a bit and i doo look quite a lot better..if not more healthy if anything.
Anyway i spoke to my mate last night and he asked how much i was taking a day and he said i wouldnt get enough out of dbol unless i took 50mg a day on a 12 week cycle..obviously stronger and for a longer amount of time cos you get most benefit in weeks 6-8.......
However this is what i was thinking....but need advice...do i go and buy more dbol and do a 12week cycle...or do i buy a PCT - chlomid and how would i go about taking that dosages wise??
thanks for any advice given.much appreciated.
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Anonalso does anyone know a good site to get nolvadex from...thanks
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnoncheers guys...looks like i should stop for now...such a shame as i wanted to enter a competition and be ripped but it looks like i will just use my natural body and go from there!
AnonYou need to add test c or e to a 12 week cycle.. You'll ruin your liver by taking it that long not to mention the lovely gains you make will be lost.. Dbol allows you to be stronger much in part to the water retention. The issue is that it can and will shut down your natty test production. The issue is that you want a good foundation before you start using gear and that comes with years of lifting natty.. if you are young and you start now when your natty test gets low and it WILL, you won't be able to use gear to get the levels up again like you would if you want. In essence, you blow your wad early. If you want to know what you will look like when you are in your late 60's after starting gear in your early twenties and late teens take a look at Arnold without his shirt on. Here is a post by Gothic.. I know it is harsh but look at the link inside the main post..
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/why-some-young-guys-sho...
You might feel like you are "getting the piss taken out of you" but the reality is that the guys here give a shit and if they didn't they wouldn't say anything at all..
Anonalso i have put up some photos on my profile
Anonits ok..being informed is the best possible way. what i do need advice with is a pct?that would be most helpful.
Anonyeah ive seen jays diet plans...but there is no way that i am going to grow in height however much i eat ive tried that before..and yes i can increase my diet and i shall do...but it seems im getting a right bad digging for saying im taking dbol..all i wanted was a bit of advice and now i seem to be getting piss taken out of me
I was 6ft in 8th grade and by 19 was still just 6ft but between 19yrs and 22yrs I grew 2 more inches. Your growth plates can stil be active up until 22 or so, you may not be through growing in height yet and if you are not steroids can stunt your growth. You dont want to start messing with your hormones at such a young age bro, it can really mess you up in the future. You dont wanna have to take testoterone shots for the rest of your life cause you fucked up your natty before it even peaked. A 28yr old with low test, high estrogen levels, limp dick and man titties cause he messed up his natty doesnt get many chicks brother. Not ragging you just letting you know.
Anonalso what shall i get .... clomid or nolvadex? and how shall i take it...like dosage wise?
Anonok fine... i guess you guys are probably correct...although the pump is insane and i am doing some insane weights in the gym i shall take your advice on board....thanks for all your help and advice.... what age then would you advise taking gear??but surely the likes of cutler etc all started taking gear when they were 18 and look at them now....although a lot is genetics. you obviously cant get like that without a lot of gear... in the past i have taken sd matrix which is a strong pro hormone and that is very good...check it out!.. the thing is i massively struggle to put weight on so the comment about not being the correct weight makes things a lot harder..and ive stoppped growing..nearly 21!
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinkok heres the thing back in the old days when i was young and stupid i did a dbol only cycle running it at 30mg-40mg and i was the same weight as you but even younger i was 18 i was one of the lucky ones i did not do damage to my liver or natural test but i have seen to many people use steroids when they are young and stupid and it has not gone the way they wanted it, for example a friend of mine did a cycle of dbol at 19 years old and now has to have test injections for the rest of his life. I CANT STRESS ENOUGH get knowledge befor you use steroids dont make the same mistake my friend did you should not be considering steroid use at your age and body weight. (anyway end of my rant) 12weeks at 50mg dout you would have a liver after it haha. i normaly run 30-40mg over a 6 week period and run 10mg of nolvadex every day from week 3 till week 6 and clomid from week 6 till week 8 at 50mg everyday. anyway good luck with the training and dont listen to your friend!
forget what your friend said! I usually only run orals for about 4 weeks. 6 at most. And majik is rite. You are definately too young to start messing with steroids period.I made the mistake of starting to early. (20 or 21).30-40 mgs of Dianobol is definately enough. Especially for someone who hads not done steroids. Just quit listening to your friends, he cant be too much of a friend if he is suggesting you destroy your liver. Good Luck!
Anon20, height like 5'6 BF 15% i think.went on one of those machines and it said that..but you can judge for yourself will take some pics later today
Anonahh good call...yeah well he does train with people that are on gear and used to take it himself...
Its a dbol only cycle...i know i am trying to sort out my diet its just really hard at uni etc..its hard enough stoppping myself from going out and drinking...but achieving a great body is more important.
I am 20 but 21 in january...so this is what i was thinking......take my pct...(need advice here) then hopefully that will take me near enough to my bday..obviously i will die on my bday turning 21 give it a few days break and then buy some more dbol and take test 400 with it for 12 weeks.view?
If your not going to listen and avoid the juice altogether, what i would do is this:
30mgs Dbol a day mon-friday for just 4 weeks
1/2 cc Test 400 monday and 1/2 cc Test 400 thursday for 12 weeks.
Nolvadex 20mg a day starting at week 2
HCG(you might not need it yet)
clomid 100mgs a day for a week
nolvadex 20mgs a day for a week
Then don't do anymore steroids till your about 28!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and now that youre bigger.....kick your friends ass!!!!!!!