-1 DBOL & Blood Pressure
hey guys, been running CENSORED test e for the last 5 weeks and decided to up the ante a bit by throwing in some CENSORED Dbol at 20mg / day. im only 6 days in on the dbol but im experiencing some BP sides. i am not estrogen prone nor gyno prone with elevated test levels nor have been seeing any estro related sides from dbol. no acne or sore nips. and i havent seen an excessive amount of water retention either. being only 6 days in my blood pressure has risen higher than normal. its usually high while on cycle but its shot up. i feel like a pressure cooker about to burst. anyone have any advice on how to lower my BP, its the only side im seeing from the dbol and would like to continue dosing it if i can. i feel like a million bucks and my strength and size are unreal. just wanted to know if any bros had some tricks on lowering it while using orals, most of the research ive seen is not based on the assumption ones using AAS. thanks
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Dang bro,
Bro, you are a complete and utter moron. I really do mean that with every fiber of my being. There are some guys below that poured their heart out to you with no effect. An apology is not forthcoming.
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skalpawell seeing as my question wasnt a cry for help but a simple question to see how other guys keep bp down if its raised during cycle, im not looking for an apology. yes, ive weighed the risks and rewards of using AAS and ive made my own educated decision to use them. and whether or not i did or not, trt would still be something viable once im 45-50. as it is with most males that age. i would just like the professional courtesy of respecting my decision and providing an insightful response that would help the issue at hand. btw last night after i calmed down from after my workout and drinking some cayenne pepper i read 118/78
Anontread-m words come swirling hovering up in my head saying for you to up your cardio as this will lower your issues with BP on this compound
skalpathanks for the advice dansta.
((SIGH)) This is why kids should spend more time scrolling and less time juicing... BP issues are a common with dbol and any idiot with basic AAS knowledge should know that
skalpabro, i DO know that. thats why i started out with a moderately low dose to see how i reacted to it. unfortunately even that low dose it brought BP up to an uncomfortable level. everyone reacts differently, but i wont know how it affects ME until i use it myself. age has no correlation with the question or problem at hand. if i was 30 then it would be no big deal, get some hawthorn berry ect. even though i now for sure im more knowledgeable than many first time 30 y/o AAS users
you are too young for AAS period! I'm sick of ALL you youngsters thinking YOU are the exception and that YOU are the responsible mature one! If you were responsible and mature you would be packing on natty for a few more years! I'll just handle this the old fashioned way....
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skalpano srsly, if say a 30 y/o guy decides to cycle with simple test and then the next cycle wants to include something else to see how he reacts. what would you guys do? tell him no "that dbol can raise bp so he shouldnt use that. oh use deca?..no that raises progesterone, oh tren? ..no your not experienced yet." so what are guys who've never tried certain compounds before to do? never try them? only use test their whole lives? ..see what im getting at
http://www.eroids.com/rules-and-guidelines
Read the part about NOT mentioning SOURCES, LABS or UGLs.......... you hold a Lvl1 tag, so you have been deducted -3 karma for disgracing our tag system.....
skalpai know not to name sources. i didn't know i couldn't site what brand i was using. my bad bro
23 years old and made it to lvl1; congrats. BP through the roof; and you are asking us how to help you kill yourself even more? Drop the cycles period and PCT. get more research done and come back in a few years. If you cant handle a 20 mg a day dbol without cooking internally then you are heading for a heart attack. Once again, PCT and go see your doctor and get a full physical done. 2 years of dieting and exercising/learning then you will be ready.
skalpawith all due respect, im dropping the dbol. but i am not dropping the entire cycle. im fine on test, dbol apparently doesnt agree with my BP. but i would have never known that if i never saw for myself. read down and you will see ive already spoken to my doctor, getting bloods ran in a couple weeks.
i started aas at 21, i have ran most compounds, i have good experience, i have misused and abused, the reason i bust balls is because of this, many reasons why you should wait, im 29, ive ran 16 cycles, two a year since 21, one cycle of abuse that lasted 7 months, i have many regrets, made many mistakes, relationship fails, family problems, imprisonment, financial hardship, all attributed too being too young and too immature, my last cyle was the first time i had full control of everything, i still suffered mental sides, i still lost sex drive, and still had aggresion issues and more trouble with the law, your dr cant help that, and he cant stop you getting a liver tumor or heart attack when your 60, you need too be careful, your not at your naturally developed genetics yet, you can actually hinder your future gains by cycling early, then you will become dependant on aas just too grow, then its trt, no one wants that. good luck, and plz think about it all, including the long term, learn from others mistakes.
skalpathis^ great response man. ive weighed the risks and rewards and i know just based on my age im defaulted as young and reckless. i made the decision, just trying to be as safe with using the different AAS compounds as possible. i would have probably never even started if i wasnt planning on competing in a few years. as for trt, it is something ive accepted and plan on cruising once i hit that age.
This has got to be the most honest and dumbest thing I heard in a while. accepting trt at a young age is just reckless and stupid. Will you eat a bag of sugar a day too and accept diabetes injections every day too? Grow up and stop cycling, seriously. If I could have even half of your natty test without having to pin every fkn week I would be happy as shit. Do you think its great to be a slave to a needle?
skalpawell no shit trt at a young age is bad. i said when i reach that age... like 45-50, when most guys are recommended to go on trt with or without prior AAS use. just to keep natty hormone levels. you really think im planning on jumping on trt in a year bro? cmon..
that is terrible, not the point i was trying to get accross, trt is bad, everthing i said was bad, meaning nothing good will come from this, you want to inject for the rest of your life? what about the nice life? you know house, piket fence, dog, wife, 2.5 kids, think about it?? forever! injections will be your life, bounce your kid up and down on your pip quad, maybe not, because you may not be able to have any.
Stop. If something isn't working for you, why are you pushing it? This cycle was ill conceived and you'll only benifit from dropping the dbol. Blood pressure is not to be messed and/experimented with. Be safe my friend.
skalpaso a simple test cycle and deciding to add in an oral is now ill conceived?? sure... when theres hundreds of posts with guys running 3x the amount of compounds and dosages i am. yah ok.. and i wouldnt know if dbol would work for me until i tried it now would i? thats why i posted this because it wasn't. getting flamed for being safe and reaching out to the community, where as some young guys just run max dosages without worry if they dont feel right.
Yes, throwing in dbol or any other oral because you feel the urge does not constitute a good cycle. Planning everything out BEFORE you start is standard and responsible.
Instead of getting upset, listen to what's being said here. Drop what is causing the issues. That is the correct course.
skalpafair enough.
Hawthorn berry extract and blood donation will get that bp down
skalpathank you for the straightforward advice
Edit your post and censor out the LAB names..... Lvl1 Cmon get it together!!
I don't support your decision to cycle but I want to make sure you don't die therefore I am suggesting these suppeents: beet root extract or eating beets will bring your bp down immediately I've seen it drop 10 pts. Celerey seed extract and celerey sticks are also top tier. Garlic and nettle and Hawthorne berry help but are trumped by beet root. Additionally lower your salt, control estrogen, up water.
skalpai searched around on some more forums to see what i could find. drinking water with a teaspoon of cayenne pepper dropped my blood pressure massively last night. as of today i am discontinuing the dbol. thanks for the help guys.
i can help mate, just need stats.
skalpa23 y/o
5'7"
195lbs
12% bf
first cycle: test E 500mg/week for 12 weeks
this is my second cycle: test E 583mg/week just threw in dbol.
drop dbol completly, wait 2 weeks and hit pct, you dont want to stroke out, for blood pressure i use hawthorn berry extract 1000mgs a day in a week you will have it down, take for 3 weeks, mate at 23 your sailing up shit creek with no boat, you may have permanently jeapourdised your health in many ways, jump off cycle and research, go too the dr and get blood test and check up, you may get flamed for this, no aas under 25 mate. good luck.
skalpaive already spoken to my doctor mate. ive done years of research before i made the educated decision to use AAS, not that its any of your concern. with all due respect its a decision i made, and my age should not affect the outcome to my question. and besides the broken record response of stunting growth and whatnot what permanent damage would you be referring to that would affect me and not someone 3 years older? you can access a post i made a year or so ago all about me discussing my first cycle with my doc...but if we can focus on the issue at hand, if i have to drop the dbol to get my bp under control i will. i just wanted to know if there was any other remedies that could bring it down enough to where i wouldnt need to drop it completely. first time running dbol and at least i know now that im not affected by estrogen or gyno but am prone to spikes in BP. seeing how well i handled test i wanted to see how my body reacted to another compound at a low dose.
how is your Ai dosed my man ?
if estrogen is out of control then blood pressure will shoot up bro, you may need to adjust your Ai and this will help greatly
skalpai started taking aromasin 6.25mg ED when i introduced the dbol as well as proviron 50mg ED (mainly to block SHBG). i had no need for it earlier in the cycle. im the kind of guy who subscribes to "dont use it till you need it" where as my first cycle i think i might have overdone the ai just a bit. and i also have letrozole on hand for emergencies if it arises.
no worries mate, good luck.
skalpathanks for the advice mate.
skalpai eat like a horse while bulking. normal day consists of 6 whole food meals and 3 protein shakes throughout the day. and i take creatine everyday. im used to higher BP while im bulking having higher bf% and water retention but ive never felt pressure like this.