posted Tue, 09/25/2012 - 17:24
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DBOL BLOAT!!!
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My full cycle is posted in cycle logs under "Fall Cycle"
My stats are in my profile.
So I am currently on my 2nd week of taking 50mgs split into 3 doses per day and I have physically felt myself blow up (bloat) and it is making me feel uncomfortable. My skin is also itchy and sensitive. I have upped my aromasin thinking I might have high E2. I am trying to eat low sodium but everything seems to be full of sodium! LOL I also do cardio daily and try to hit the sauna. I am almost to the point of just tossing it from my cycle. I heard Fast48 talk about spiro for a diuretic, but is linked to a few deaths. I appreciate any helpful tips with bloat.
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DAM DBOL BLOAT!!!! HAHHA anytime i took d-bol even at 20mg i would bloat like a pufferfish but now that i have dialed in my diet i have absolutely no bloat!!! I started 4 weeks ago at 40mg and still on. No bloat, no chipmunk face. I'm also on 12.5 aromasin ED which helps too. I know everyone is different but i feel like changing my diet is what made the world of a difference.
Orals scare the shit out of me. Seems like the sides and potential liver damage just aren't worth it. We do this to look and feel better, and just end up looking like the Michellen man with moonface. Just seems to be a lot of effort and angst for a kicker we could just get from prop
At first I thought your bf% is to high but looking at stats it's not to bad and thanks for the stats it helps. Are you drinking plenty of water? At least a gallon a day. Do you drink alcohol as this will increase water retention. My advice go to vitamin shoppe and ask them for something herbal to help. If you are on aromasin plus are doing all the right things maybe dbol just isn't for you. Neext time try tbol way less water retention. This is a classic example why the vets say try 1 drug at a time so if there is a problem we can pin point it.
I have only introduced 1 compound at a time. I did a test E only cycle for my first cycle. During PCT and off cycle I introduced GH and helios. Now for my second cycle I integrated dbol for a kicker. I try and be conservative with my cycles. I appreciate your feedback though.
cdaddy7Yessir, you took the words out my mouth...Consider Tbol as an alternative...I know its said to be a weaker oral but in cases such as this...It might not be such a bad idea...Another consideration is to use Test P @150mg/EOD as a kicker and TNE @50-100mg on your workout days an hour before the gym...YES its more pinning but not gonna have the bloat issue so much...I tried that and in place of dbol just to test it and it worked great for me...That my input on that
You got to hit this from a few different angles bro. First the bloat. Drop the dosage to around 35mg. Always hit bloat with more water and start drinking some green tea. Real green tea not some tea bag shit. Go buy it in bulk. It will sped up ur thermagenics and it's a great anti-oxidant. Next u are IMO having some allergies to the dbol. The itching is a sign that u are not cleansing to the maximum potential. Add in lots of liver support like milk thistle and dandelion and again make sure u up your water intake. A lil trick is benadryl 25mg daily until the water, green tea, milk thistle and dandelion take effect. I have had to use all of the above during my last couple of cycles and it did alleviate the itching I was experiencing. Ur liver is working double time when any orals are part of ur cycle. Some folks don't experience itchin o bloat bu I am one of the unlucky users who get bloat and itching sides. So brother I can relate trust me. This should help
Funny you said benadryl cause I took a pill not too long ago! LOL Thanks for the tips! I will for sure hit up the green tea. I am taking a liver support/blood pressure/cholesterol supplement called "cycle support" by AI sports nutrition which contains per scoop and taken twice daily:
600mg N Acetyl Cysteine
500mg Silymarin (milk thistle extract)
500mg Hawthorn Berry
150mg Grape Seed Extract (95% Proanthocyanidins)
150mg Saw Palmetto
125mg Nettle Root
75mg Celery Seed Extract
50mg Idebenone
10mg Policosanol
Damn! This was a huge learner!
excellent advise GS ;-) I couldn't have said it better myself ( I give you a virtual thumbs up, I can't vote ;-(
cdaddy7I got him for you Grrrl, bc that was excellent info and he learned me something today too!!!
Dbol has one main side "water retention" thats kinda the point of its use. Kind of like creatine. You utilize the dbol to help put on mass. Hence the retention of fluids and protein synthesis and amino uptake in fibers. This is common if your BP is out of whack lower the dose it has a very short half life in the blood serum.
I'm with both these dudes. Def drop the does to 30 or even 25. And there is a good chance ur aro is fake
Im no vet, but I do believe dropping the d bol's dosage should help. I do believe water retention from d bol, to some extent, is going to happen with whatever ancillaries you throw at it
you could also lower the dbol dose (say 30mg?). i hear coming off dbol kinda sucks.
Thanks! I will lower dose and see what happens.
Hey bro....hows the water intake for flushing and is aro from mpr? There was a big fake aro issue few Weeks back. Threw all mine in toilette and went to PP. Aro 12.5 Ed?
Im drinking damn near 1 gallon of water per day, if not more! I am using purity solutions exemestane. I have adex from a trainer on the way. Yes, I am doing 12.5mg per day and sometimes 25mg.
purity solutions is some damn good shit.
Sweet! Thanks for update. Sounds like the dbol is just bionic.......definitly helps when whole pic gets covered.
Thats definitly some supercharged dbol! I've been fighting the salt foods. Eq boosts rbc so if i have salty food the bp raises :(. Not familiar with that brand or at least didn't see complaints flying. Tread or vike would be most knowledgeable on safely trying that other option.
Dub G makes fire ass liquid dbol and it tastes like cherry, but damn it is way strong!!! LOL Like I said, "I literally felt myself getting bloated for a week and I have been trying to combat that ever since. I will lower my dose to start. Do you know of any safer diuretics that will purge salt and water safely?
Coffe has helped me before. Theres also otc products at local pharmacy for water retention. Last time i ran dbol was long ago....just 15mgs/split blew me up great. You're lots bigger but the old stuff just had boost. Halving and dumping some water will get ya happy again. Gotta give the gg high five for kicking ass! Eating bland boring foods helps with salt. Not fun but works. Been 10Weeks of baked/boiled chicken, tilapia, lean beef.
not really about bloat...but what about dropping the dbol and finishing the kicker with prop?
I might see about that, but I only have 2 weeks left for kickstart and I don't have prop on hand.
2 days domestic....i dont know about dbol but if its that bad it might not be worth it