posted Sat, 12/14/2013 - 11:10
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cutting gear with oil to relieve reaction?
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I've been running some gear from a good source here but the test e is dosed at 250 in ethyl oleate. It don't matter how/ where I pin but the more I inject the bigger the reaction. Gear seems to be gtg, strength is up but the reaction is terrible. I've been reading constantly and it seems ether the eo or the amount of ba. So I've been thinking of cutting it down with some sterilized grape seed oil. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions on this?
Just some notes:
NOT virgin muscle
Inject 1-1.5 cc at a time
Usually do at least a 60 sec count
Been using it 3 weeks and it gets sore red swollen but then goes in about 4 days
Thanks !!
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WithdrawlFirst off, even for sensitive guy like me, 250mg/ml is about the top of the comfortable zone. If you've diluted it and you still have pain of ANY kind I can guarantee you it's the EO. That's stuff is not for everyone and because even when you dilute it you still aren't getting rid of the EO, you'll still have problems, just less sever. I'be cut prop 250 down to 125mg with zero pip. 400mg test to 200mg with zero pip. The fact you still have pip tells me it's the EO bro
Your not allergic, your symptoms are identical to what I experienced. I was told I was allergic, virgin muscle, moving the pin around and tearing he muscle, injecting too fast...all good suggestions however incorrect! I contacted my source and we agreed that the possibility that the concentration of the Test was too high for the muscle to absorb with the GSO. We decided to cut the test in half and add another product (Masteron in my case) and shit you not, the pain was 100% ELIMINATED!!! I was pinning 300mg twice weekly. About 2-3 days later the muscle was swollen, sensitive and the I'd have to sleep on the opposite cheek... I tried everything... messages, heating pad warming oil hot showers etc... As soon as I included the Mast in the equation PROBLEM SOLVED! I'm sure it had something to do with dilution, oh and btw I didn't cut the Test.. I kept it the same 600mg per week and 400mg week of Mast. Now I'm not suggesting you run out and add another compound, but diluting the Test should be the solution! How this helps as my advise is limited, but I have crossed this bridge before.
I have cyp and DECA. Both are in gso. I can try cutting 50/50. What do you think?
Picked up sterile filtered gso. Syringe filters and sterile vials.
Still having pain at quad injection site. Redness is subsiding as well as the swelling is going down. I supose its getting better.
RustyhookerYou read my forums? What's your rotation? Benedryl?....but if ya knew benedryl ir meant yoy been researching. So good luck....
Sure did, great info. Saturday/ Wednesday. Site is just about cleared up today.I read about benedryl, I can't take anything benadryl, makes me pass out.
From the reaction and time to heal it must be either a reaction to the eo or the ba content.
Thanks for all the replys
Dude im in the same boat. I found that if i add .5cc of sterile grapeseed oil for the local grocery store to every 1 cc drawn it helps cut the pain and swelling down but your just gonna have to indure it for the most part. Oh and the grapeseed oil burns a little. Reason for me is i draw straight from the container of grapeseed no filter probably not the best route but never had any problems as far as contaminants and it helped me survive til i could buy some other gear.
you are injecting food quality gso into your muscle? Very bad idea. it is not sterile at all and you are risking a lot.
Maybe so but refered by a friend in the game a long time told me to do this cause i was having a really hard time absorbing the ester causing great deal of pain and swelling. So i went to the store and bought 100% sterile grapeseed oil and tried it for myself and not only did the pain subside but there was no swelling. Once again i only did this long enough to get my new stash in and gave that other crap away.
Sounds like EO allergins. next time you buy gear skip the ones with Ethyl Oleate.
Four days later, still red, sore and swollen. Worked kegs last night so maybe I compounded the problem.
try heating the oil preinjection, then heat the injection sight after injecting. this will prevent the oil crystallizing and causing PIP
RustyhookerSome folks react to eo. Click my emoticon....my forums....pip forum. Many ways to help and yes....blending is very good to alleviate pip.
I've never cared for EO based gear to be honest. Grapeseed or sesame all the way. If it was the BA concentration you'd know because it would sting like a bitch.
Screw trying to cut it with other oils I'd just toss it and order some Test with a GSO base.
Grape seed oil works really well at cutting down on pip. It's the carrier I use in every compound I produce. There are several quality sources on here that sell vials of sterilized gso at a resonable price. Buying it prefiltered and sterilized will be easier than going through the steps of ordering supplies and doing it yourself.
Or cut it with injectable B12 on a 1:1 ratio. I cut my high mg with B12.
Thanks bro. I'm grabbing some oil, sterile vials and a syringe filter and giving it a go.
Any advise?
Your probably allergic to eo i cut my high mg. gear with sterile oil works just fine try 1 to 1 see what happens