+ 2 Blood work results on 200mg Test Cyp...questions/concerns/input !
Hello to all ! quick background for everyone: 27 yrs old, have ran several cycles before. I always run Arimidex on cycles 1mg a week, always PCT off cycle....As of lately i like only doing 200-250mg test cycles, instead of blasting testosterone. Its a personal preference, i like it. My diet and training is on check so it gives me a nice extra boost. lately i have been on a new source and doing 200mg test cyp for about 6 weeks with 1mg arimidex a week (.5mg 2x a week). I just got blood work done and want to see what some of your inputs are...i notice my estrogen is still pretty damn high, maybe i need more adex? also if anyone has any other inputs or concerns on any other levels they see and ways to get stuff lower...etc. Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks !
I have other things tested, im just posting what i feel is of main concern, if people want to see other things i may have tested, please feel free to ask
Estradiol: <5.00 (Low)
DHT: 90 (High)
Testosterone, Total & Free: 1,020 (High)
Free Testosterone Index: 163.13 (High)
Estrogens, Total: 133 (High)
Prolactin: 10.75 (In range)
Progesterone: 0.43 (In range)
CK Total: 1,129 (High)
Iron: 193 (High)
HDL Cholesterol: 38 (Low)
LDL Cholesterol: 108 (In range)
TSH: 2.39 (In range)
T4 Total: 6.4 (In range)
T4 Free: 1.29 (In range)
T3 Free: 3.34 (In range)
DHEA, Serum: 209 (In range)
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How long after your last shot did you pull bloodwork?
I'd be questioning the legitimacy of the testosterone your using mate you should be higher on 200ml as week.
This would explain almost crashed estrogen
Thank you to all that replied and put in their input/advice, it was greatly appreciated. And now i learned a few new things also
will get retested again shortly to see if it balances out.
Lesson learned dude.....nice that you were receptive about the info given and have a plan for corrective actions. Keep an eye on them bloods down the road
Hello Sir,
Community have already answered to your question and hopefully you will make note of this. And even though everyone is going to say you should have researched all this before implementing PEDs and should have done a blood work prior hormone use, I want to say well done for taking your time and actually checking your bloods as most of the athletes don't even bother doing this. You have chosen to learn a hard way as all this could have been avoided but at least you're learning and educating yourself to make sure it does not happen again. Good luck with your goals.
Regards
I'm confused as to why you'd want to use more arimidex as your estrogen is low , is there something I'm missing ?
nope lol more so me getting confused between estradiol/estrogen...was going by estrogen total where people in here have informed me to go by the estradiol number..glad i came here !
So this is a clear example of why drawing bloods BEFORE YOU EVER CYCLE is what we preach here. You say you feel fine but your morning wood is almost non existant, for all you know you may have always had low estrodial and all those numbers being all over the place are concerning. Taking 200mg of test a week and then popping 1mg of arim a week is keeping you very low, but like I have said many times you will never see zero ever. Some men function great at lower then normal levels of e2. You will need to drop the adex for about 10 days then go for another test and see where it rose to.
When after your last shot did you take the test? That seems a little low for 200 a week even with 133 free test, the free should be higher since your estrodial is low.
Estradiol is the primary surrogate marker for estrogen in the body.
This is the measurement you need to worry about, nothing else.
Your wanton use of ai has actually crashed your estrogen.
Drop the ai before you develop severe low estrogen sides.
Whatever you do, DO NOT increase your ai dose.
Its silly stiff like this that makes me smfh.
Ohhhh okay! Thats what was confusing me the most...so go by my estradiol number. I appreciate that, backing off my AI instead.
Right on man. Measure again soon per Mack above
This a tricky blood test with your 2 estrogen tests. My guess is your severely low estradiol level is more important at the moment than total estrogen. I would honestly back off a bit with arimadex and recheck. What a bitch! Whatever you do do not increase your dose of ai. My 2 cents
Wonder what his shbg is I've heard it being low can spike free estro
In this case I would say his is damn near zero. Estrogen raises it and steroids lower it.
1 estrogen we have to figure out if you ordered a female hormone panel?
2.stop taking multivitamin with any iron in it
3.dht will come down after cycle
4. Ck high is from exercising that is non specific so doesn't tell us a thing.
How do you feel. Morning wood libido real oily skin? If you feel fine and are not having signs of high estro don't fuck with it.
Feel fine, no morning wood but i do have sex drive...not as intense/aggressive sex drive but if my girl gets touching im good lol. My forehead keeps breaking out (i am very obessive with skin care and still get break outs)
Rustyhooker"i notice my estrogen is still pretty damn high"....ummm.....Estradiol: <5.00 (Low).
Ummmm..... it clearly says your estro is LOW and below 5. Holy crap but my joints would feel like razor blades at 5. Let alone ANY growth will stop. Plus, we NEED estro for cardio health.
Anything im missing here?
Estrogens, Total: 133 (High).....total of all 3. E2 is what we control.
Yeah thats what im getting confused at, i apologize if im not sure lol. So youre saying my estorgen is actually LOW, being that my esteadiol is <5 and to NOT go by total estrogen
Hey tywo don't worry about it. I was confused too because few men get their estradiol tested. I'm a nurse and it confused the crap out of me. Thanks for posting +1
RustyhookerNothing wrong with being confused sir. Some tests are not user friendly. Its good that you asked
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With this case yes. Leave arimadex alone for a few weeks until you recheck your levels.
Estrogens 133 high. What's the difference?
RustyhookerTotal. All 3 types of estrogen. Its like total test being 2000 as an example....but how much Free test thats useable. It can be 2000 but all bound by Sbgh.
Generic view
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogen
This is all too confusing for me. The total is high but the overall is low. If it was me I'd redo bloods and double check. Especially if I'm not experiencing any high or low estro sides
RustyhookerI still like the test that lists e2 solo. So its a clear concept. 20-50 is average good spot and above or below dependant on users sides and skills.
User friendly readouts...
basskiller89Edit: your estrogen looks very low
Someone negged you either by accident or before your edit, have it back.
RustyhookerI remember seeing a funky test long ago that had me stumped. You caught the 'total' listing that had me confused by reading too fast. I didnt realize that labs testing procedure was different. Lol
You just made me check his numbers again, 200 a week to have only 887 test is very low, the 133 is also funky for free test but to have 5 for E? Something is not adding up. I think we need to see the actual test not a copy paste
RustyhookerAgree. Then the ugl self prescribed or pharma? Many questions here...
Its nice that the teacher can also be taught lol
RustyhookerIm taking notes for sure. Ive got tons to learn.
basskiller89TY
It was confusing because his total E is high but what matters is low