From personal experience; How many people prefer test prop, tren, and anavar aka all anabolics or taking hgh, test prop, Clen and t3 to get completely ripped. I like winstrol, but I feel like tren does the same while actually burning fat. Tren will put more weight on, but I usuallly only use winstrol like masternon, 2-3 weeks out from show everyday to harden up. Any input if I just wanted to shred 20 pounds in 8 weeks?