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Anavar tested for D-Bol WOW now I have a question

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Hey guys, A small background im 37 in the middle of my first real cycle in about 5 years(due to my wife and I having kids etc) I've been into gear and have cycled on and off since I was 20. Now that the baby making part of my life is past, I'm back into being committed on cycling 2-3 times per year, I'm not ready for TRT yet but I'm sure that will be coming although Id like to hold off until i'm pushing 50 or really need it.

I've always tapered on and off slowly and steadily and have had success with keeping my gains and natural test levels up. So getting back into the swing of things the begging of this year I spent a lot of time and money on different sources and labs to build up a nice stockpile for me and a few of my friends... I also tested a bunch of the stuff I got. I'll be posting the results as well as the results on my current cycle when I'm done and have some real stats and pictures about my gains etc...

So as for my current cycle: My plan was for 12 weeks of weeks on Enanthate with Deca stacked in the beginning to the middle and adding anavar till the end or even extending a couple of weeks with the var depending on how I felt. Dosages isn't important for this post

So....I made the mistake of getting the var from two different labs one lab was 10mg the other was 25mg, I was taking both to get me to 45-50 mg a day. I Got my test kit about a week and a half in. The 10mg one tested for var and the 25mg tested for d-bol.......Now, I've never done d-bol before or researched it much because the bad rap it has for water retention and liver damage etc.... But I knew it was fast acting so when it tested for d-bol I said fuck it and I ate 3 and it happen to be an hour before I got into a brutal bi and back work out, Holy shit I had no idea it was that fast acting.... wow now I see the light and why people love d-bol its pretty amazing ..

However, without the Var, my cycle plan is a little fucked at this point but i'm still very happy...... the Enanthate is treating me great my diet in on point and of course I'm continuing to run the d-bol (2 tabs before I train) next week ill be cutting down to 1 tab and closing out with just Enanthate. I have no idea the dosage of the d-bol because Im sure the dick holes that made and sold it as var didn't put a lot of care into the dosage of the product

So my main question when i'm not cycling is there any problem with getting an intense work out in once a week with a nice safe dosage of d-bol, and will it do anything for you except give you an nice pump and nasty workout? I do see a problem with taking it for a week then stoping or being inconsistent with it. At that point I feel you'd be fucking with your levels and you'd probably be a head case.

I guess I'm asking this on here because I'm sure some guys do what I'm asking and if they do i'd like to ask their experience with it and how it effects them or if its worth it.

Even though I didn't get the var I am glad I tried the d-bol, I can see how adding this properly with a good diet can do great things for a test cycle.

Any feed back is awesome and will help my plan for on and off future cycles
Thank you,

IrishWOLFhound's picture

So my main question when i'm not cycling is there any problem with getting an intense work out in once a week with a nice safe dosage of d-bol,

Personally I don't see the point just to get one intense workout a week but people do it I guess . But you'd probably miss the feeling the days your not taking it preworkout then you might take it twice a week and then three times a week and then it'll become a dbol only cycle.

Breal80's picture

Yea I see how it can be a slippery slope, I've personally never had a problem in the self control department, I would think that one day a week where you pack in more calories and use the d-bol to push yourself harder than you normally could would be beneficial for lots of reasons. But yea, are the sides worth it and you're right where do you stop

kibby's picture

Why?

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kibby's picture

I've got ........

10mgs ×100
50mgs ×50
25mgs ×50

All different labs, been tested and didn't pay more than £60 for any of them.
Real var is not very expensive and not hard to find if you research and know what to look for.

Someone once told me less than a year ago that I'll NEVER find real primabolin..........I've got plenty of that also

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wanted's picture

The best var i bought and still buy when its onsale is
50mg x 100 tabs = 120.00. It is amazing. Looks as if your on tren all vascular and thats only using 50mg aday

kibby's picture

Any chance of a pm brother ?

I wouldn't mind taking a look

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Manshit's picture

It’s faked a lot in the US.I wouldn’t say it’s hard to find but is pretty expensive mg per mg compared to other compounds.Nothing like primo but still pretty high.Still what you say you pay is about spot on.

kibby's picture

Why do you think that is bro?

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Manshit's picture

I don’t have an opinion on that and have received some really good Var, from domestics but once I got some real I found out that I was getting underdosed.Don’t get me wrong,It worked but 80mg a day has turned into 40mg with the same results.

kibby's picture

Tbh just going off personal experience 80mg of decent/real var would probably leave me unable to train.
It has a rep as a week steroid......this is bullshit,it just takes time to show it's true potential.

Tell take signs after a few days are prominent veins and muscles starting to look filler. When in full swing training becomes painfully to say the least. Anavar used to be dosed at 2.5mg a tab as this was enough to stop muscle wastage. Not 2.5mg per kg body weight 2.5mg every 9 hours I believe

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Manshit's picture

I agree I’d explain further but It’s forbidden in open forum.I now use about 30mg and get the same results. Unbelievable pumps very vascular quite a bit of fat burning affect.Of course I didn’t know this because I hadn’t use the real before once I did I felt like a source I trusted was selling underdosed gear at least they’re orals were.I sent you a friend request

kibby's picture

How come mate?????

One of the best if not the best oral out there imo.

I love the stuff!!!

Test prop and var the best combination on the planet brother.
Nice and easy simple but effective cycle

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kibby's picture

Definitely not var mate........when did these symptoms start?

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kibby's picture

Sounds like superdrol or methytest.

Basicly something so toxic to raise your liver values enough to hurt you.

But one day????? Did you get before bloods????

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kibby's picture

DEFINITELY not var bro... but if it was me bloods wood be done asap

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Shakercup's picture

My “anavar” tested positive for dbol. I am currently dieting and cutting up nicely and making improvements and wanted to add anavar to get more defined but noticed some bloat and water weight blurring out my current condition. I did feel the strength gain and energy/mood in the gym. I did this for 3 days till I decided to stop it and got a labmax anavar uv test. I tested it twice to make sure and both came out positive for dbol. I have no use for dbol and so It will going in the trash.

Makwa's picture

Are you using Labmax to test it?

Breal80's picture

Roid test,

Makwa's picture

Never used roid test but I assume it is pretty much the same as labmax. Anavar is real tricky with those tests, to much and it will show positive for dbol. With the 25mg the amount you need to use is barely anything due to the high mg. I would retest using a much smaller amount if you haven't already. If you used the same amount of powder as you did when testing the 10mg it is sure to test positive for dbol then. Var has been switched out with dbol before, happened to me. I would go by sides also. You will pile on weight rapidly with dbol in just a week. Main thing is to make sure you use the correct amount of powder with those tests or it will be thrown off.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/beware-don%E2%80%99t-b...

kibby's picture

When I test mine I test 1-10th of the total amount advertised.

I find this the most affective dosing method for fairly decent compound reactions.

I've had a positive test for var done "the correct way" . Then for shots and giggles I done another with half a crushed pill......it just turns black indacting winny or dbol.

They definitely need to be done correctly for best results

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PPGfreak's picture

You would think a source would use Winstrol at a low dosage being that it won’t put on water/size. But why replace anavar with dbol? Even 10-20mg will add size and water.....

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Breal80's picture

I dont know prob because its cheap, but the test came back bright red for d-bol, and I can only gage the dosage on how I felt, Taking three before my work out was pretty intense in a good way, but i wouldnt have went higher. When I was taking one a day i didn't notice much but I also thought I was taking var.

333's picture

That's fucked up. ebc was before I joined would be fun to see another but I bet that source is gone now or at least hope he fixed the problem and got you back for the inconvenience

GrowMore's picture

No clue about weather or not a couple dbols once a week would cause shut down or damage your HPTA or in all fairness cause any liver damage. We would really have to check out your own personal bloods for those results. However I do feel it's a little irresponsible and bordering on abuse. Drink some coffee bro!

Also you haven't put up a review or any photos of said anavar/dbol. Don't hold out on us if it's a source here make sure to right a reviews, imagine a bird uses the same dbol thinking it anavar.

Breal80's picture

I planned to do Var with the Test E, I dont feel that, that is an advanced cycle but the var ended up testing for D-bol, and I decided to go with it. When Im done I'll have only run the D-bol for about 3-4 weeks and at this /point its serving me well as a pre workout

I just had a thought about using it once a week when im off cycle and using it bytraining a different muscle group each time (call it a d-bol work out haha) I was I just curious to see if anyone else dose or did this and if it was harmful or helpful. I feel If the negative effects are lower because of the short term use (one day) could the positive effect of giving that muscle group an intense work out could be beneficial for off cycle maintenance or growth

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Be careful taking other products from the same lab that the 25mg Anavar came from. If they're willing to sell Dbol as Anavar, that means they're probably capable of doing it again with different compounds. That being said, Anavar is probably one of the most faked AAS on the market due to its' cost and popularity. You would have been able to tell it was Dbol and not Anavar after a little while of taking it if you didn't do the testing on it. The gains would be different, feels different, and Anavar won't convert to Estrogen and give sensitive nipples like Dbol does. If you were taking 3 x 25mg for a 75mg total of Dbol, and thinking you were taking 75mg of Anavar, you'd start to notice Estrogen-related side-effects pretty quickly and known something was up.

I just wanted to mention that. As for your main question:

So my main question when i'm (sic) not cycling is there any problem with getting an intense work out in once a week with a nice safe dosage of d-bol, and will it do anything for you except give you an nice (sic) pump and nasty workout?

I found this for you from Anabolic Minds it's called "Pulse"cycling.

What is "pulse" cycling? Pulsing is a method of dosing that is intentionally designed to avoid potential long-term side effects such as HPTA suppression and liver stress. This technique was originally developed in an effort to prevent the usual HPAA suppression experienced during long-term corticosteroid therapy in children. With pulse therapy, it was observed that the serious long-term side effects of chronic oral treatment were often prevented, and the short-term side effects like acne and mineral retention were typically much milder. This can also allow for higher doses to be used since the dosing is less frequent. Starting with this template, if one normally takes a product at 30 mg/day, that equals a total intake of 210 mg/week. While pulsing, one might typically take 40 mg of that same product on work out days only, 3 times per week. That calculates to 120 mg/week total, which is 90 mg less than usual. This provides the needed benefits of the product at arguably the most crucial metabolic times, which are just before and just after a work out. This offers a means of possibly attenuating the endocrine suppression that one might otherwise encounter on a standard cycle. In many cases, a conventional post cycle therapy should not be required after a typical 4 week pulse. However, while pulses of 6-8 weeks are permissible, a conventional post cycle therapy may still be prudent for some individuals. Idiosyncrasy seems to play a big role in regard to tolerance of duration, so general predictions obviously become tricky as duration increases.

Theoretically, if one doses every day in perfectly spaced intervals, one should achieve 100% effects, 100% short-term sides, and 100% long-term sides. If one doses every other day like the pulse protocol, one might better anticipate 60% effects, 75% short-term sides but only about 40% of the long-term sides. This means that if one would have gained 10 pounds on a standard 1 month cycle, one might instead only gain about 6 pounds per month pulsing. Since the time on is roughly only half when pulsing, the total length of the cycle can be doubled to basically 2 months. Using the same calculation, the net result would be a gain of 12 pounds over 2 months, instead of the 10 pound gain expected from the 1 month standard cycle. That means a greater net gain of 2 pounds per cycle, and perhaps a more permanent gain due to the slower rate of acquisition and longer time of reinforcement! For this reason, pulsing can be very economical on the body as well as the wallet, and offer a desirable alternative for conservative veterans just looking to stay in shape, or potential new comers exploring additional safety measures.

There are three common types of pulse:
1) EOD dosing (3-4 times per week)
2) 2 days on / 2 days off
3) 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off (2 wks is the longest viable on time consideration, no longer)

Depending on one's workout schedule, one of these options may offer optimal pulsing efficiency. On average, effective doses may typically be around 1.5x the normal daily dose of a standard cycle, and these doses are taken very close to one other. It's not essential that the last dose be administered before 6 pm, but the earlier the better for reducing suppression potential. Half the total dose can be taken pre work out, and the other half taken post work out. If an odd numbered dose is used, the greater of the 2 doses might best be taken pre work out. However, when pulsing non-methylated or fast acting supplements, the greater dose would instead be best utilized post work out based on half-life considerations. Individuals who are extremely sensitive to shutdown may even prefer to take the entire dose pre work out. When pulsing, dosing at least 3 day per week but not more than 4 day per week should foster optimal results.

There are a few miscellaneous nutrition considerations that would be wise to keep in mind. Having a quality, high carb/calorie post work out meal (or shake) is important to proper recovery, and ingesting sufficient protein especially on the off days doesn't hurt either. A cortisol antagonist like low dose DHEA (25-50 mg) may be helpful for slow healers or hard gainers. Some studies show that cortisol peaks in the morning and again in the mid afternoon, which might therefore be the ideal times for an anti-cort. An herbal or AI based test-boosting supplement used nightly (or at least on one's off nights) might prove very effective as additional insurance to discourage the possibility of suppression. SERMs with long half-lives probably require extra consideration and caution. One may observe that testicular volume and/or testosterone levels reset slightly above previous baseline at the end of 2 consecutive off days, or at the end of the cycle itself. This phenomenon is called 'bounce' back. This seemingly paradoxical bounce appears to reflect the body's short-term homeostasis effort, and acts somewhat like a built-in pct with this method. It's also good to remember that the smaller number of dose exposures likely means faster liver clearance of your supplement. Liver ancillaries (like healthy oils and anti-oxidants) are not contraindicated, but Milk Thistle in high doses could act counter productive to gains. Therefore, if you elect to use liver protectants, reserving them for off days only might be good middle ground. As always, I suggest that one only consider using legal, commercially available nutritional supplements, and always consult a physician prior to use of any supplement. Cycle safe!

Example of a 3x/wk pulse M,W,F:

Week-Dose(mg)
1 (10,20,30)
2 30
3 30-40
4 30-40
5 30-50
6 30-50
7 30-60
8 30-60

Example of a 4x/wk pulse Sat, Sun, Wed, Thur:

Week-Dose(mg)
1 (10,20,30,30)
2 30
3 30-40
4 30-40
5 30-50
6 30-50

Credit
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/62121-how-pulse-orals.html

GrowMore's picture

Same lads are running 150/200 anadrol..

50mg of anadrol is all a gym rat needs! Fuck 75 dbol.

Manshit's picture

Yep the old school pink hexes had me crazy strong at 10 to 15 mg pre workout.Of course I was only in my early twenties as well.I see people with these high doses and my blood pressure jumps just thinking about it!

Manshit's picture

Exactly!The only person suggesting doses like today was Don Ross.He seemed to love dbol.I had an old rag with one of his cycles in it and it was deca and dbol for like twenty weeks and switched the dbol for whinny at the end or halo.Even back then I thought to myself “Crazy”

shredski's picture

Seriously! I've had amazing results with 20
Mgs. At 30mgs my BP was through the roof but 75 holy fuck my heart would explode and shoot blood out of my ass haha

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shredski's picture

Yeah man it's real unfortunate that anyone sells anything underdosed or overdosed. I want exactly what I'm expecting to buy. If I wanted more or less I'd get it that way.

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