This is really very simple! I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles. The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch. What I do is I'll buy both a box of 100, 22g 1.5" syringes and a box of 100, 23g 1.5" screw-on needles only.
So I'll draw my oil from the vial or ampule with the 22g 1.5" syringe, then unscrew the needle and dispose it, and screw on one of the 23g 1.5" needles. And I now have a fresh, sterile needle that hasn't touched anything to inject my glutes with. I'll also buy an extra box of 25g 1.25" needles only for injecting my deltoids.
Unless you're using insulin pins, then I guess your only option is to draw with one pin, they use that to backload a brand new one, but I don't do that.
I just wanted to explain this once more. The following is what I wrote, as you can see my comment above;
"I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles. The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch."
Now, I was describing which needles/syringes I use and how simple it's done. So, what I meant and said is that the brand of syringes that come with needles is Exelint. And the screw-on needles only brand(In other words, just the screw-on needles by themselves, or the brand of just the screw-on needles only and not with syringes) that I use is Care Touch!
To me it sounds fine. IN FACT, IF I WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT CARE TOUCH IS THE ONLY BRAND THAT MAKES SCREW-ON NEEDLES, THAT'S NOT EVEN A CORRECT WAY TO SAY IT, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN A SENTENCE! I ALWAYS WRITE WITH CORRECT ENGLISH, AND IF I INTENDED TO SAY THAT, I WOULD'VE SAID IT STRAIGHTFORWARD! I guess I can kind of possibly see where it was mistaken for the only brand that makes screw-on needles is Care Touch. But that's obviously not how I speak, and if I meant to say that, I would've said, "The only brand that makes screw-on needles is Care Touch." But that's very obviously not what I was saying!
I'm very aware of the various brands that make needles, syringes etc. and I also know that BD is the best brand you can get. I'm sure that basically everyone who's involved with using gear knows about the BD brand of syringes. It's not like I have stock in Care Touch needles or mentioned a site where he should buy them from or anything, Lol!! I was just explaining which ones I use.
And nothing to do with you Greg, but for the few that knows what this is really about, isn't this a little sad! And for the way it went down (in other words the various steps, or lets say pm's), it's just laughable and pathetic!! Smh, Lol!!! Again, nothing to do with you Greg!
I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles.
End of comment [period].
Statement (of fact):
The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint...
Statement (of fact):
the screw-on needles; only brand is Care Touch.
What you should have said:
I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles. The brand of the syringes I use is Exelint; for the screw-on needles, the only brand I use is Care Touch.
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But that's obviously not how I speak...
Obviously? Why is it obvious? Written english does not have the benefit of body language, vocal tone and emphasis to clarify intent and meaning. Therefore, it has to be more precise.
I ALWAYS WRITE WITH CORRECT ENGLISH,
Uh, no you don't.
I'm actually surprised that you took this minor/petty mis-reading, misunderstanding or miscommunication of words to attack/jump on me like you've been waiting to or something!! ...just seemed like you were cocked and loaded waiting for something to go off on.
Wow, I didn't know you were such a snowflake. Nine paragraphs of response to a fourteen word retort. You think I'm the one that went off? SMH
I'm not trying to argue here, but I don't know how you still can't understand what I meant.
"What you should have said:
I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles. The brand of the syringes I use is Exelint; for the screw-on needles, the only brand I use is Care Touch."
Why should I have said the above statement when that's not what I meant? I didn't mean that the only brand of screw-on needles I use is Care Touch! I'm gonna try and explain this one last time. I was explaining the brands that I use.
This is my original statement:
"The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch"
What I meant is the brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint.(In other words, the syringes that come with needles included together that I use is Exelint. And the brand that I use of the screw-on needles only, meaning just needles with no syringes, is Care Touch. All seriousness, you do understand know right?
I know what you mean, or meant, but your "perfect english" is not that now is it? Using the word "only" when referring to the needles is not concise, it is redundant, and because your sentence structure being "how you speak", when printed, lacks emphasise via tone or body language, or through punctuation.
"The brand of Syringes I use that has the pre-attached needles is Exelint. The brand of twist on needles I use is Care Touch."
This was your comment:
This is really very simple! I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles. The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch.
Here is one of your problems:
and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch.
Watch how the sentence changes with just one punctuation moved around a little bit.
and the screw-on needles, only brand is Care Touch.
and the screw-on needles only, brand is Care Touch.
and the screw-on needles only brand, is Care Touch.
Lol! But I honestly wasn't trying to argue. And I know that if you aren't absolutely 100% sure and fully committed about something that you are arguing about, then Greg is not the guy that you wanna do that with!! I know how he'll break down every single sentence, word by word and letter by letter! Lol!
Just out of curiosity, are you able to understand what I meant by my original statement?
That's it, I'm explaining this shit again! Jk, Lol!! Alright, that's cool. I do see where it could've been mistaken. No big deal, I'll try and write more clearly in the future. I guess that sometimes I do get a little OCDish, Lol!
"The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch."
No, Care Touch is the only brand that makes screw-on needles is not how I meant it, lol! In fact, BD is another much better brand, probably the best!
I meant the screw-on needles only, without the syringes, their brand is Care Touch. And the brand of the syringes including the needles, is Exelint! (Screw-on needles only, Not with syringes!) I didn't say the only brand that makes screw-on needles is Care Touch, and that's how I would've said it if that was in fact true and what I meant. Of course I'm aware that there are many different brands of screw-on needles out there, including the major brand BD. Lol!! You have to know that I'm smarter than that, right??
I'm actually surprised that you took this minor/petty mis-reading, misunderstanding or miscommunication of words to attack/jump on me like you've been waiting to or something!! It doesn't seem like you! Have I offended you in another comment or something?? That just seemed like you were cocked and loaded waiting for something to go off on. Either that or,....... thinking more about it, it's likely a totally different scenario I just figured out which is just laughable! Smh, Lol!! And my bad if I'm reading this wrong, but I'm usually good with things like this. No offense Greg!
*2 BD are what I use also - Sharpest and easiest to draw/pin needles I've found to date ....I use to think Terumo were good until I tried BD by chance.
So are the tip sizes interchangeable and you could put a 25g or 21g on one originally a 23g?
All syringes with interchangeable twist lock needles are standard. You can use any brand needle with any brand syringe.
BD are what I use also - Sharpest and easiest to draw/pin needles I've found to date
I too found BD needles to be the sharpest. I've had issues with Care touch needles that were dull, or had a barb, fresh out of the package.
Mines BD, I got 100 of the 2 ml 23g x 1" and 100 of the 23g x 1.25" tips...
I buy 100 of the BD 3 mil; 22g x 2" syringes and a box of 100 BD 25g x 1" needles.
I use the 22g needle attached to the syringe as my draw needle and swap out with the 25g for pinning. The 2" length makes it easy to reach the bottom of most vials when drawing.
Cheers. You pin with a 1" needle? From what I read that sounds on the relative shorter side. Is that because you have low BF / pin at sites which makes it easier to hit muscle (and maybe someone with a bit more BF should use a longer one) or do you just find its unnecessary to go beyond 1"?
I'm lean, and have had no issues using a 1" needle. Nothing is stopping you from going longer. My first TRT Doc prescribed 22g x 2" needles for weekly glute injections.
Drawing needle = needle to pull the juice?
Although English is not my first language, I thought it was a translation error.
I don't know if I understood correctly.
I am currently using two different juices with different dosages.
I only use one syringe to pull the juice and to inject it.
Did I get that right? - I speak as an inexperienced person -
Hi yes, you should use a different needle to pull the juice and inject it. The main reason is because putting the needle into the rubber vial blunts it a bit, effectively making it a used needle, and you want a very sharp needle to inject to minimise tissue damage.
You may also find that different size needles do each job better, and I don't know how much of an issue it is but I heard that fragments of the rubber can get stuck on the draw needle and you don't want to be injecting bits of rubber inside you.
I'm using a 23 G needle ( 0.6mmX30mm ).
I've never seen pieces of rubber tear and I've never had any infections.
Each injection I use a clean syringe and I throw it away.
You really shouldn't use the same needle to draw as you do to inject, for the reasons that @Killdec already explained. But it's totally up to you of course. At a good website, an extra box of 100 needles is as cheap as $6 or so. It's much better instead of risking an infection, plus that blunt needle is gonna cause more damage to your muscle at the injection site and cause scar tissue. But it's up to you.
Transferring from draw needle to injection needle:
Ok. Here we go:
You got your syringe #1 with your drawing needle, which you use to pull your oil out of the vial respectively ampoule.
Then you take your syringe #2 (for the moment without needle). From #1 you inject your oil into #2, through the open end where your injection needle has to be put on.
Man I just switched to lauer lock syringes and they even have an extra little rubber tip on the stopper so you get every drop of your oil. They’ve the coolest shit I’ve ever seen for syringes. 20.99 with free shipping for 100 and they come with 25g 1” needles. I think I got a little too excited when I saw that fancy rubber stopper that minimizes wastes oil, but that shits cool and I’ve never seen it before.
Haha I use them both, lock are better though but unfortunately cost more. There's nothing worse than when you have some thick as hell cold oil that is hard as f*** to get through a 25g and then all of a sudden the needle shoots off and oil sprays everywhere lmao
Lmao Oh shit! Luckily that’s never happened to me or I’m sure I’d feel different. That’s one of the reasons I heat my oil and try to buy thin oil. I was always afraid of that but started thinking I was just being paranoid cuz it hadn’t happened.
You have to be applying a hell of a lot of pressure to the plunger and it has to be virtually jammed mate - BUT the worst thing is because of the jerk of it all the needle lodges as deep as it can into your leg is where its happened a few times to me so if it hits a nerve it kills. Pretty awful experience in all honesty and then there's the cost of the oil wasted. Trick is to abandon the pin if it jams badly, pull out and heat and change needles and insert again.
Oof. Yea I can only imagine if it hits a nerve. Glad I know the warning signs now.
I also have a fear of the needle popping out of the base, but 3 years and it hasn’t happened yet lol. Again, one of the main reason I hear my oil. Cuz I have random irrational fears lol
Alphamale500This is really very simple! I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles. The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch. What I do is I'll buy both a box of 100, 22g 1.5" syringes and a box of 100, 23g 1.5" screw-on needles only.
So I'll draw my oil from the vial or ampule with the 22g 1.5" syringe, then unscrew the needle and dispose it, and screw on one of the 23g 1.5" needles. And I now have a fresh, sterile needle that hasn't touched anything to inject my glutes with. I'll also buy an extra box of 25g 1.25" needles only for injecting my deltoids.
Unless you're using insulin pins, then I guess your only option is to draw with one pin, they use that to backload a brand new one, but I don't do that.
Only brand huh? the biggest out there is BD and there are several others.
Alphamale500I just wanted to explain this once more. The following is what I wrote, as you can see my comment above;
"I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles. The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch."
Now, I was describing which needles/syringes I use and how simple it's done. So, what I meant and said is that the brand of syringes that come with needles is Exelint. And the screw-on needles only brand(In other words, just the screw-on needles by themselves, or the brand of just the screw-on needles only and not with syringes) that I use is Care Touch!
To me it sounds fine. IN FACT, IF I WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT CARE TOUCH IS THE ONLY BRAND THAT MAKES SCREW-ON NEEDLES, THAT'S NOT EVEN A CORRECT WAY TO SAY IT, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN A SENTENCE! I ALWAYS WRITE WITH CORRECT ENGLISH, AND IF I INTENDED TO SAY THAT, I WOULD'VE SAID IT STRAIGHTFORWARD! I guess I can kind of possibly see where it was mistaken for the only brand that makes screw-on needles is Care Touch. But that's obviously not how I speak, and if I meant to say that, I would've said, "The only brand that makes screw-on needles is Care Touch." But that's very obviously not what I was saying!
I'm very aware of the various brands that make needles, syringes etc. and I also know that BD is the best brand you can get. I'm sure that basically everyone who's involved with using gear knows about the BD brand of syringes. It's not like I have stock in Care Touch needles or mentioned a site where he should buy them from or anything, Lol!! I was just explaining which ones I use.
And nothing to do with you Greg, but for the few that knows what this is really about, isn't this a little sad! And for the way it went down (in other words the various steps, or lets say pm's), it's just laughable and pathetic!! Smh, Lol!!! Again, nothing to do with you Greg!
Bloviate much? What you said.
Comment:
End of comment [period].
Statement (of fact):
Statement (of fact):
What you should have said:
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Obviously? Why is it obvious? Written english does not have the benefit of body language, vocal tone and emphasis to clarify intent and meaning. Therefore, it has to be more precise.
Uh, no you don't.
Wow, I didn't know you were such a snowflake. Nine paragraphs of response to a fourteen word retort. You think I'm the one that went off? SMH
Alphamale500I'm not trying to argue here, but I don't know how you still can't understand what I meant.
"What you should have said:
I use the syringes which have the screw-off needles. The brand of the syringes I use is Exelint; for the screw-on needles, the only brand I use is Care Touch."
Why should I have said the above statement when that's not what I meant? I didn't mean that the only brand of screw-on needles I use is Care Touch! I'm gonna try and explain this one last time. I was explaining the brands that I use.
This is my original statement:
"The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch"
What I meant is the brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint.(In other words, the syringes that come with needles included together that I use is Exelint. And the brand that I use of the screw-on needles only, meaning just needles with no syringes, is Care Touch. All seriousness, you do understand know right?
I know what you mean, or meant, but your "perfect english" is not that now is it? Using the word "only" when referring to the needles is not concise, it is redundant, and because your sentence structure being "how you speak", when printed, lacks emphasise via tone or body language, or through punctuation.
This was your comment:
Here is one of your problems:
Watch how the sentence changes with just one punctuation moved around a little bit.
and the screw-on needles, only brand is Care Touch.
and the screw-on needles only, brand is Care Touch.
and the screw-on needles only brand, is Care Touch.
Alphamale500Fair enough.
jayiskit was just getting interesting. Greg's head has a built in lexicon...,lol
Alphamale500Lol! But I honestly wasn't trying to argue. And I know that if you aren't absolutely 100% sure and fully committed about something that you are arguing about, then Greg is not the guy that you wanna do that with!! I know how he'll break down every single sentence, word by word and letter by letter! Lol!
Just out of curiosity, are you able to understand what I meant by my original statement?
jayiski want to say No so bad just to see you type out a big paragraph explaining it again...lol
at first it did come across to me that you meant there was only one brand. which didnt make any sense.
but i got it when you explained it again.
Alphamale500That's it, I'm explaining this shit again! Jk, Lol!! Alright, that's cool. I do see where it could've been mistaken. No big deal, I'll try and write more clearly in the future. I guess that sometimes I do get a little OCDish, Lol!
+1 For giving me an honest answer!!
Alphamale500"The brand of the syringes with needles is Exelint, and the screw-on needles only brand is Care Touch."
No, Care Touch is the only brand that makes screw-on needles is not how I meant it, lol! In fact, BD is another much better brand, probably the best!
I meant the screw-on needles only, without the syringes, their brand is Care Touch. And the brand of the syringes including the needles, is Exelint! (Screw-on needles only, Not with syringes!) I didn't say the only brand that makes screw-on needles is Care Touch, and that's how I would've said it if that was in fact true and what I meant. Of course I'm aware that there are many different brands of screw-on needles out there, including the major brand BD. Lol!! You have to know that I'm smarter than that, right??
I'm actually surprised that you took this minor/petty mis-reading, misunderstanding or miscommunication of words to attack/jump on me like you've been waiting to or something!! It doesn't seem like you! Have I offended you in another comment or something?? That just seemed like you were cocked and loaded waiting for something to go off on. Either that or,....... thinking more about it, it's likely a totally different scenario I just figured out which is just laughable! Smh, Lol!! And my bad if I'm reading this wrong, but I'm usually good with things like this. No offense Greg!
*2 BD are what I use also - Sharpest and easiest to draw/pin needles I've found to date ....I use to think Terumo were good until I tried BD by chance.
Mines BD, I got 100 of the 2ml 23g x 1" and 100 of the 23g x 1.25" tips (ideally wanted 1.5").
So are the tip sizes inter-changable and you could put a 25g or 21g on one originally a 23g?
All syringes with interchangeable twist lock needles are standard. You can use any brand needle with any brand syringe.
I too found BD needles to be the sharpest. I've had issues with Care touch needles that were dull, or had a barb, fresh out of the package.
I buy 100 of the BD 3 mil; 22g x 2" syringes and a box of 100 BD 25g x 1" needles.
I use the 22g needle attached to the syringe as my draw needle and swap out with the 25g for pinning. The 2" length makes it easy to reach the bottom of most vials when drawing.
Cheers. You pin with a 1" needle? From what I read that sounds on the relative shorter side. Is that because you have low BF / pin at sites which makes it easier to hit muscle (and maybe someone with a bit more BF should use a longer one) or do you just find its unnecessary to go beyond 1"?
I'm lean, and have had no issues using a 1" needle. Nothing is stopping you from going longer. My first TRT Doc prescribed 22g x 2" needles for weekly glute injections.
Ok cool, yeah I had glutes in mind which is my preferred spot and don't think 1" will work on my fat arse.
Drawing needle = needle to pull the juice?
Although English is not my first language, I thought it was a translation error.
I don't know if I understood correctly.
I am currently using two different juices with different dosages.
I only use one syringe to pull the juice and to inject it.
Did I get that right? - I speak as an inexperienced person -
Hi yes, you should use a different needle to pull the juice and inject it. The main reason is because putting the needle into the rubber vial blunts it a bit, effectively making it a used needle, and you want a very sharp needle to inject to minimise tissue damage.
You may also find that different size needles do each job better, and I don't know how much of an issue it is but I heard that fragments of the rubber can get stuck on the draw needle and you don't want to be injecting bits of rubber inside you.
I'm using a 23 G needle ( 0.6mmX30mm ).
I've never seen pieces of rubber tear and I've never had any infections.
Each injection I use a clean syringe and I throw it away.
Alphamale500You really shouldn't use the same needle to draw as you do to inject, for the reasons that @Killdec already explained. But it's totally up to you of course. At a good website, an extra box of 100 needles is as cheap as $6 or so. It's much better instead of risking an infection, plus that blunt needle is gonna cause more damage to your muscle at the injection site and cause scar tissue. But it's up to you.
CibaNo problems with slin pins though. But I wouldn't do it with normal pins.
Furthermore your needle isn't sterile anymore, after packing out and pulling your gear from an ampoule or vial...
Transferring from draw needle to injection needle:
Ok. Here we go:
You got your syringe #1 with your drawing needle, which you use to pull your oil out of the vial respectively ampoule.
Then you take your syringe #2 (for the moment without needle). From #1 you inject your oil into #2, through the open end where your injection needle has to be put on.
Now put your injection needle onto syringe #2.
Happy pinning
I simply use Luer lock and change tips!
StevebIf you've been trying to change the needle on an insulin syringe that's pretty funny. If not it's easy to see a needle twists off like a bottle cap.
Lol Do you mean you got Luer lock rather than Luer slip barrels?
Man I just switched to lauer lock syringes and they even have an extra little rubber tip on the stopper so you get every drop of your oil. They’ve the coolest shit I’ve ever seen for syringes. 20.99 with free shipping for 100 and they come with 25g 1” needles. I think I got a little too excited when I saw that fancy rubber stopper that minimizes wastes oil, but that shits cool and I’ve never seen it before.
Hey! Nothing wrong with Luer Slip
I used to use them with 1cc’s lol.
Unfortunately I don’t know if he knows what we’re talking about.
Haha I use them both, lock are better though but unfortunately cost more. There's nothing worse than when you have some thick as hell cold oil that is hard as f*** to get through a 25g and then all of a sudden the needle shoots off and oil sprays everywhere lmao
Lmao Oh shit! Luckily that’s never happened to me or I’m sure I’d feel different. That’s one of the reasons I heat my oil and try to buy thin oil. I was always afraid of that but started thinking I was just being paranoid cuz it hadn’t happened.
Dude... I’d be so mad!
You have to be applying a hell of a lot of pressure to the plunger and it has to be virtually jammed mate - BUT the worst thing is because of the jerk of it all the needle lodges as deep as it can into your leg is where its happened a few times to me so if it hits a nerve it kills. Pretty awful experience in all honesty and then there's the cost of the oil wasted. Trick is to abandon the pin if it jams badly, pull out and heat and change needles and insert again.
Oof. Yea I can only imagine if it hits a nerve. Glad I know the warning signs now.
I also have a fear of the needle popping out of the base, but 3 years and it hasn’t happened yet lol. Again, one of the main reason I hear my oil. Cuz I have random irrational fears lol
Always use an alcohol pad. Also the pointy end is what goes into the vial. Just a friendly reminder.
lol
You sure you did all your research, boss? We were all new to this at one time but you got me worried.
but you got me worried lolol
I wasn't able to shake the mental image of transferring it literally from one syringe to another...lol
Not to be critical here bro but I don’t think steroids are for you.
Bruh lol 333 got you
The needles twist off you draw with one twist needle off then twist new one on
Ohh right of course, thanks!