posted Tue, 08/08/2023 - 17:16
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Bloodwork question
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I have a question about my bloodwork. I'm new to AAS. I'm 51 and never used aas before, I started what I thought was a small cycle. Test/EQ 400, and Adex and that's all, I pinned 200mg ( 1/2 cc ) once weekly and 1mg Adex daily. Pre cycle bloodwork showed Test of 360 with free Test at 8.6. At 4 weeks in I sent off more blood work (drawn in the am before my next pinning) which showed Test of 1400 with free Test at 47. This is a much greater jump than I expected. I have noticed muscle gains already.
Question: - does this sound normal ? - what is a good range for Test and free Test on bloodwork?
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Update: repeat blood work shows Estro is back in the low normal range. It took 5 weeks to go from <6 to 22. Thanks to all those who helped me get more on track. Test stayed the same.
Symptoms, I am not tired like I was before. Libido is still strong.
Not sure if im actually seeing muscle gain or just more definition. Either way stamina and strength have improved, veins are popping out again.
Thanks again!!
If anyone can direct me to a good PCT I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want to make another bonehead mistake..
So should I be expecting any kind of untoward effects or side effects from my Estro being so low?
My Estro was 35 prior to starting Adex
That is pretty much the jump I would have predicted. 1400 is a pretty good score for 200mg/wk of test, even more so since you tested it in the trough. Your choice of cycle now is another story. 1mg of adex daily, that is fricken crazy. What possessed you to take that much? Where is your estro at with that much adex?
Estro result <6. per bloodwork this is normal but im assuming they do not acct for someone on AAS
Dude, your estro is completely crashed. This is a bad thing in case you were wondering. You need to drop the adex completely, Probably don't even need any ai on 200mg/wk of test.
Again i am brand new to this and I read that is what should be taken. Sounds like I should not be doing this.
I was doing 0.5mg of Adex twice a week, and I have dropped it completely. 1mg daily = 7mg of Adex a week. That is very bad my friend and certainly worth doing some more research. Estrogen is very important man. Any hot flashes? Lost of libido (even with those high Test results)? There is some really good info here and tons of videos on YouTube that can guide you, but you need your estrogen levels to normalize asap. After I dropped Adex (160mg of Test C a week), I’ve felt a ton better, and I was taking only 1mg per week. Lots of good guys here with a time of knowledge so definitely take advantage of the advice given by these folks. Drop Adex and you can retest in again in a few weeks but star there. Best of luck
Only thing I've noticed is I'm more tired than normal, I want to nap all the time. No hot flashes. As far as libido, I've experienced quite the opposite. Much better than the usual. I will recheck blood again in 4 weeks and report back in. This has me questioning directions I received from my supplier. Can anyone tell me where to look for up to date info on dosing?
The last thing you do is take advice from your supplier. Read through the newbie forums here and you will learn everything you need to know.
SwaveyDYou shouldn’t need adex at all on a 400mg blend. (For most people) And if you do, it’s definitely not 1mg. I’d drop it completely if your estrogen levels are that low on your bloodwork
Thank you, I appreciate any advice I can get.
If I could ask, what is a Text level where someone would need to start dosing Adex ?
SwaveyDIt’s completely dependent on your body. But for me personally, I’ve never had to use it. My cycles never go above 400mg of test and no other compound that aromatizes
SwaveyDI can't speak for the older guys, but for someone in their 20s or 30s, I would have expected a higher jump -- depending the mix of test/eq. Assuming its 200/200, it could be reasonable to only jump to 1400, but everyone responds different. The good part is that you know you received legitimate gear.
Going forward, especially for your first couple cycles, I would run straight compounds and not blends.
Thanks, I appreciate the input..
Unrelated to your question but I'm curious, you take 1mg of Adex daily?
Yes, 1 mg Adex daily.. Is this something I shouldnt be doing ?
Yes, as Makwa said above you've certainly crashed your estrogen levels with that amount of adex.
As others have stated, with 200mg Test /week you likely won't need to have a 'routine' for AI, and just use it in response to any sides you feel if they flare or spike. 0.25mg of Adex (cut a 1mg pill into 1/4's) would likely suffice for this.
All above is good advice, goodluck friend
negative ghost rider - eq can act as an ai for some people already. Come completely off Adex as mentioned above and retest e2 in 3-4 weeks