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So I recently started running Growth. Been running 4IU daily. I started out injecting all 4 IU at once. I started to notice I was EXTREMELY tired mid way through the day. Not sure if this is because of the growth or not. I started today splitting the dose. 2 IU am and 2 iu at night time. I just kinda wanna hear the vets take on here regarding splitting GH doses. I am assuming because of the half life it would be more beneficial to split doses also I am not extremely tired today doing 2 iu to start the day. Is tiredness a side of GH? My hands are not that bad some numbness through the day. But mainly I want to know about splitting doses is it better to do so? Should I just stick to 4iu once daily? Or keep it split? Thanks brothers.
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Personally I use the full dose before bed time
I love HGH , it is works very good for me
I honestly only ever ran my gh in the morning once I woke up on an empty stomach..I'd fast for an hour or 2 and then eat..i never really got tired even when my gh dose was at its highest which was 5iu..i got cya pretty bad tho lol..i know a lot of guys split dose it's different for everyone..try not to eat around that time tho the gh will work better
so i've noticed im definitely more tired mid day than ever before by 1-3pm i need an hour-hour+half nap if i didn't sleep a solid 8 hrs.
this urge to nap is COMBATIBLE with will power but its really tough and i find myself taking an hour nap on my lunch break. honestly, i have no idea how to reduce this side effect and i kind of just accepted it. in regards to splitting doses, i would if youre doing 4IU daily. 2 and 2 seems ideal.
i agree, i noticed taking it while fasted it works the best by far. i tried to take it with my morning coffee then wait 2 hrs to eat.
then i take my second dose about 3-4 hrs after my lunch right before i workout.
SwoljaboyYea. I agree about the nap. Anything is beatable with will power but it’s a heavy feeling of being tired. And being in an office chair all day man I can’t help it. It’s been a little better since I started splitting. I take my first one at 5 am with my pre workout. Fasted already since I just woke up and then I wait until about 10 am to eat. Then I take my second dose around 5 pm. And wait a few hours to eat. But once I eat my last meal I’m out for the night I pass out quick on a full stomach.
SwoljaboyI just wanna thank everyone who participated In this thread. I love getting a good thread going full of knowledge. I don’t do these for the karma. Don’t really care about karma. But when a thread gets going like this I love it. Knowledge is food. This is one of the main reasons I joined this site because I didn’t know shit really. Every day I learn something new because of the Vets on here.
I 2nd that. Thanks for all the great info guys. And thanks Swoljaboy for post.
SwoljaboyHappy it was a success. Sometimes I worry it will be crickets. But there are some vets on here willing to share. I been splitting the dose now and it’s way better. Fasted in the AM. And then I fast three hours prior to my second injection and wait about two hours to eat after that. Sides are next to none now. I had bad head aches and was sleepy all the time.
I must be the only one that doesn't get tired from HGH.
Me neither...numb hands for sure tho lol
Doesn't make me tired either ... never has.
We just got used to it lol, at least me running it so long....but remember long ago you probably had more sides in general from GH.
AnonI don't either. Eating a good meal will make me sleep if I lay down and let it tho.
Lol, Same here, but I like the feeling cause you got a full meal in the belly and a pleasurable nap, I feel so good and refreshed afterwards!
AnonYes. The trick is to time it right and get that good sleep.
Yes, tiredness is surely a side of hGH. Especially taking in a blast of 4ius in the morning...I notice as well I will have to take a nap by mid afternoon. I used to be a HUGE advocate of splitting up hGH doses throughout the day, esp before IGF was huge on the scene. In fact it was proven to help shed fat loss more, and consistent pulses throughout the day lead to more stable levels of IGF-1. Esp if you're running more than 4ius I always would recommend splitting up the doses. It's just hard with diet because you need to be fasted from carbs otherwise the higher insulin levels in the body from carbs will render the hGH useless. Best recommendation would be to split it exactly 12hrs apart if you're doing 2ius/2ius or even if you increase to 6ius (3ius/3ius). This will help with consistency and utilize the most out of the hGH being spaced 12hrs And not take the last dose at night before bedtime as it will inhibit your natural pulse you'll get anyway. Even for people running 9+ius you can split it 3 or more times but this is hard to accomplish based on dietary needs. If you're waking up early like I remember around 5am take your 2iu dose then. And 12hrs later would be 5pm...just keep a space of a few hours beforehand/and 1hr after before you eat for the hGH to get into your system. Then at night let you're natural pulse hit so it's not supressed, and the prior afternoon dose of hGH should help you sleep still.
Good bald ice and I’m going to take it
SwoljaboyThank you brother. This is what I needed. Right here. Perfect. So 5 am and 5 pm. Perfect. Yea I was getting way tired. I could not help it but sleep. Thanks again bro.
You'll feel much better, and you're welcome!
I know fat loss is blunted if taken around meals, but what about the other benefits of GH, primarily the recuperative abilities it provides. I don't think that is affected by carbs.
Recuperative abilities are primarily achieved by the consistency of dosing hGH and inflation of IGF levels over a long time. One dose of hGH will not instantly help with support on that given day repair/recovery. This is where rhIGF-1 shines because it will instantly support repair/recovery of muscle tissues broken down. That's done at night while you sleep. High-carbohydrate diet at the higher caloric level again will severely depress growth hormone values in plasma.
Fat metabolism: Growth hormone enhances the utilization of fat by stimulating triglyceride breakdown and oxidation in adipocytes.
Carbohydrate metabolism: Growth hormone is one of a battery of hormones that serves to maintain blood glucose within a normal range.
AnonSo it holds true that taking your AM dose is best done while fasted to maximize fat metabolism in your experience as well? How long have you found or read that process to last? I would guess the second through 4th hour post injection, a total of 2 hours approximately?
Oh yes, completely important to take in the AM... you'll get your natural largest pulse at night anyway with smaller pulses as you sleep toward the morning. And you're correct ~2-4hrs, but from my research fat burning abilities does last the majority of the day upon a AM injection. It's just strongest in the morning being fasted with no carbs, hence why ppl are jumping of the intermittent fasting (or basically just skipping breakfast lol). All your hormonal levels are elevated, (pop a Woody), cortisol is low from rest but started to rise quickly, in the AM this in general will help you burn more fat.
SwoljaboyMy am injection I am fasted from sleep. Then I wait around 2-3 hours to eat. But it’s easy because I go to the gym. But that’s a good question right there
SwoljaboySo do you think I’m okay Just GH solo. (Edit)
TricepatopsAlot of people run GH without censored.
YES, esp in the off-season bro. (CENSORED).
SwoljaboyAlright. Awsome.
AnonEdit out that taboo talk now that he saw and answered, you gonna get in troouuublee
AnonYou storing it in the fridge? A few days worth of pre filled syringes? I’m going to start up some soon
SwoljaboyYes brother. I have oxytropin liquid. Came reconstruct already. In the fridge. Then I have a few kits un mixed in the fridge. When I start the powder I am going to use 1ml per 10 iu. And keep pre filled syringes in the fridge as well. Just have not mixed it yet because I have the oxytropin. But I’m just going to keep one more filled at a time. I’m running 4 iu day so a pretty filled will be me a day and a half. I don’t wanna have a bunch of ore filled in the because of the kid he’s 5 and likes to get into everything.
AnonI got 10iu vials too. I mix and prefill slin pins 1 vial at a time. I'm doing AM dosing only, 2.5iu's. I know it's a low dose but I'm on a nice cycle of Test and Deca too.
SwoljaboyNice. I’m about to do what I spoke about the other day. 200 test 200primo and 4iu GH. I’m gonna TRY to stay there for 5-6 months. As long as the itch for tren doesn’t kick in. Lol. And yea as soon as I finish this oxytropin off I’m doing one pre filled at a time.
AnonThis is gonna be my first run with it so I’m gonna start at 1iu in the morning before breakfast, probably a week, then try 2 iu same time. I’ll end at 3-5 iu hopefully I can go 6+ months but we will see. Mines powder from one of the top two intl sources brand name resellers. I think I’ll be doing the exact same, 1ml for 10 iu for now.
SwoljaboyThat’s the best way. This is my first go. The legitimacy of the GH I got was in question. So I started at 4IU to see and sure enough it was real. Numbness and tiredness. I’m also sleeping way better at night time. Went from trensomnia to sleeping great again. But since I’ve been sunning 4iu I’m just gonna stay there and split the dose. I know the other GH I have in stock right now is 100% legit. But I am a fan so far. 100% worth it. It was told me to it’s a long term commitment. So I held off on it for a while. But now I’m ready. I’m sitting in like 650-700 IU right now. Lol.
Ramping it up slowly is the best way to avoid the sides like numb hands.
If I am going to be around 4iu or above I split the doses. Anything below 4iu I will generally pin all at once. Best time to pin if only doing it once is the am before you eat. Your blood sugar is at its lowest then and injecting then will have the largest impact on fat loss . That is why I would also recommend to take it on an empty stomach for your second dose. The fat burning effects are enhanced when glucose levels are lower. If I am splitting doses it will be first thing in the morning and PreWO. If I am running IGF-LR3 along with it then I will have carbs with my PreWO when I take my LR3/HGH dose, otherwise no carbs with either HGH shot to enhance the fat loss effects.
SwoljaboyMy man coming in with the knowledge. I was waiting for you. Lol
I was literally just about to ask this same question, a long with a few others. I have been running 2iu pm for 3 weeks and just went to 4iu, splint am/pm. But when looking into dosing protocols there seems to be so many out there...(all at once if under 5iu, splint am/pm, splint am, pre work out, post work out, a few hours before/after you eat, doesn't matter if stomach empty or just ate) I just can't find ant type of consistency. I too wof like some input.
SwoljaboyExactly why I started this lol. I get info from some good people on here. Honestly I heard the same things you listed above. A lot of this or that. I will say this. When I did 4iu at once I felt like shit. Just today I split the dose. Only did 2 so far and I feel like a million bucks already. Night and day difference. Also feel like if your on slin it make cause a different protocol. But I am not on slin just GH. Along with few other compounds.
I also get extremely tired off it whenever I try to run it, if I inject it before bed then I sleep through my midnight meal and end up losing strength and weight. Not sure if you are like myself or not, but I love my carbs for training, general energy and gaining weight. Turns out HGH blocks glucose uptake into the blood for quite a while after you inject it, meaning less muscle energy and therefore contraction force and I find I am more groggy headed as it doesn't go into the brain immediately either. I assume the block of direct energy into the blood is what makes you feel tired.
However the tendon strengthening qualities of it still make it worth running if you don't feel tired off it.
SwoljaboyLove my carbs to. I notice a HUGE difference when I don’t consume my carbs. Part of the reason I was injecting in the AM is because I do it at 5 am. Gym by 6 home by 7:30 or 8. And then I eat around 9 am. I was told to hold off on eating after injection for that reason. So I am now experimenting with the 2iu am and 2 iu pm. Only on day one tho. Did 2 Iu this morning and man what a difference in my energy already. I know everyone is different. Gotta find what’s best for me and my body. But I still wanna hear people and what they do. I honestly think me splitting the dose is the ticket. And yes! I was foggy headed the past few days to. Wasn’t not sure if it was superdrol or the GH because Sdrol does it to me as well. So I cut the Sdrol and split GH dose and like I said I feel a huge difference and feel way less foggy in the head.
AnonSdrol beating the shit out of your liver with (or just after) the tren cycle you were on will put your dick in the dirt for sure. Harsh orals KILL my energy after a bit, however the strength is still there in the gym
SwoljaboyYea brother I am not going to lie. I got a little out of hand running compounds. I am starting my cruise next week. Low dose test at 200 week. Primo at 200 week and GH 4iu daily. Going on that protocol for 5-6 months.
AnonLmao I hear you bro. It happens.
$20 says that tren train hits the station in a month though…
Be safe my man!
SwoljaboyLMAO!!!! I tell you what. If it happens I will come to you and tell you. I plan on doing a log in my cruise. So I’ll keep it updated. If I come off it I will let you guys know. I do have a shit ton of tren lol