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Need help if my gears bunk

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Hey yall, currently on my first cycle so obviously im new to gear in general, ive been on test and var for the past 7 weeks. (200mg of test e on monday thursday) and added in 20 mg ED on week 4. I just got my bloodwork and none of my bloodwork was out of range. For some reason my doctor didnt get me my total test and other important markers, but I got stuff like creatine, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides and etc with no alarming issues or concers. On top of that, I havent really notices a huge increase in strength. Aswell as my libido. I purchased my gear from OSGEAR, from Pharmqo. Whats yalls thoughts on this? Any help would be appreaciated.

Petecastiglione's picture

You’re not gonna notice anything wild on 400mg test and 20mg var. Granted, it is ENOUGH for great results, also granted diet is relatively clean/high protein, training is intense, and you’re taking enough rest. But only way to check is bloods, or if the sources sketch you out, bin it and get from somewhere else

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sandman3698's picture

Lol thats basically what he said.

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BigDdaddy's picture

Not sure about everyone's opinions, but if you've been on 400mg of Test E per week for 7 weeks, you should absolutely be seeing strength and size gains by now. Provided your actually going to the gym and working hard. Especially if it's your first cycle. You should absolutely be seeing changes in body composition on 400mg Test first cycle after 7 weeks. I would get your bloods for total Test immediately to make sure your not on bunk Test. I know people will hate saying that about Pharmaqo, but it's definitely not like we haven't seen it happen before plenty of times with sources no matter how good their reputation is.

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mcclovin's picture

I would stick with your current test doses of 400mg a week for a couple of months especially if it's your first time on any injectable testosterone. It'll allow to see how to respond to testosterone and then if all is good increase the dose from there. You can always run higher doses in future cycles. But like press1 said it takes time to see changes in strength. Try not to change too many variables at once so you can pin point what is working and what is not working for you

TheIcon's picture

Odd you are on Test but your doctor didn't want Test Bloodwork. or am I reading this wrong? Was this just like a normal doctors visit and he isn't aware of you taking Test or ?

Bill1976's picture

Send a pill in for testing. Best way to know for sure

press1's picture

I am assuming you mean you are on a Total of 400mg per week of Test? First of all, bare in mind that this will take at least 3 weeks to build to any reasonable level in the bloodstream. This means you have been on Test effectively for only 4 weeks now at 7 weeks in which isn't long at all - you need to be evaluating your strength gains after 12 weeks at least mate - ideally 14 weeks. In studies it has been proven that the ideal level of Testosterone is 600mg/wk to see the best size and strength increases, or the minimum ideal level I should say.

20mg per week of Var for only 3 weeks so far isn't going to show anything special in terms of added strength, to get good levels of strength from an Oral at low dose you are looking at 30mg of DBol per week for that, Anavar strength gains are best at 50mg/wk minimum.

Sure it would be a good idea to get your testosterone levels checked via bloods, but I am pretty sure they will be good as the Lab you are using is always dependable in tests - especially compared to a lot of the other UGL labs available in International shipping currently.

mcclovin's picture

I agree with everything you mentioned here. I think the same study also tested the effects of 125mg, 300mg, and 600mg. The doses showed +3.4kg, 5.2kg, and 7.9kg respectively of "lean mass." 600mg is definitely bettter than 300, so 400 he should still see good benefits but like you said it takes time. I haven't experienced anavar but I have some in my back pocket for later use. Do think 50mg a week total will provide noticeable results or is that just wasting it?

press1's picture

Do I think 50mg of Anavar taken over 7 days will provide noticeable results??

mcclovin's picture

Yeah that's what I'm wondering if that's what you meant in your first comment

Cloudy's picture

Correct, and thank you for helping me with that info, ill consider everything and also get bloods done in about 4 weeks or so. Thanks again!

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randomdude's picture

You need to get your Test levels checked. Check out hellogoodlabs. It’s cheap.

Also no brand or source talk in the open forums.

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Cloudy's picture

perfect, I thank you for the help! and sorry I didnt now know that

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UncleYoked's picture

20mg is a low dose of Var. 200mg is lower then a cycle dose, higher than proper TRT, this is a decent dose for increased performance but I wouldn't expect anything insane from this mild cycle. Your best bet is getting a blood test with total/free/shbg/e2 about 24hrs after last dose.

Cloudy's picture

im doing 400 weekly, and yeah i plan on doing another bw test at the end of my cycle and making sure my doctor actually prescribes me the right test

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UncleYoked's picture

oh, well, that is entirely different. Def get it checked out.