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Rich Piana RIP talked about how all the IGF-1 out there is fake. That was close to a decade ago now. With the Generic GH market changing, quality and price getting better, is IGF-1 now more readily available/cheaper also? If you've used it, I'd love to hear your opinion.

Black90tsi's picture

if you've got the money to spare this site is all about people taking things and showing the blood work results to the rest of us.

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Rosschestzip's picture

I’ve used a liguid one that is “recombinant igf-1” instead of lr3. So I guess it’s like generic incralex? Idk but I heard guys say that the only IgF that’s worth using is incralex but then I’ve heard other guys say they used incralex and it was a big let down and that the newer lr3 stuff is better. So idk man there’s so many opinions out there and not enough facts. But for the price difference I don’t see anything wrong with running a generic, I’d just use a trusted sources generic, like a VERY trusted source, one with a perfect reputation because that’s probably going be one of the more faked items out there, along with primo and Anavar

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23Sparta's picture

I just ran that same recombinant human IGF-1 solo and pulled bloods, hoping for results this upcoming week

Rosschestzip's picture

Well I’ll be looking out for your results cus I liked that stuff and it would be the perfect thing to add to my hgh run lol and I think I have some store credit with them too

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23Sparta's picture

Yeah, I really really liked that product. So I’m interested af to see these bloods. R-human, should show up in an IGF-1 test. LR3 has been altered, so it won't.

press1's picture

With HGH kits getting cheaper by the month on here, especially for those living in the US I think you are better just getting a HGH kit than running an IGF-1 peptide by itself. Makwa always preaches that running just IGF by itself is fairly pointless. It seems the IGF-1 that comes in solution is the better of the 2 options vs powder pucks in vials for reconstitution, BUT obviously the price difference is huge!! I would go the HGH route given how cheap the kits are becoming, a nice 350 to 400 score is what you want to be aiming for. You don't want it sky high anyway as there are a lot of long term health consequences in having a high IGF-1 level for a long time, its not good for you long term.

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Steeltoad777's picture

Yeah you're right. Makes sense.

DeeMan's picture

I'm also still in shock of how things have changed over the years. I've never used neither but good post.

Steeltoad777's picture

Watching Derick from more plates more dates and vidorous Steve videos... They make great points... Long term, it's probably much healthier running an enhanced trt of... 100mg of test, 100mg of deca, 100mg of primo, and maybe 2iu of GH VS blasting and cruising.

I'm hopeful gonna be starting some GH if/when my pack comes fingers crossed. I've always heard the synergy of HGH igf1 and slin is very effective and you can use less GH if you incorporate a lil igf1 in there.

DeeMan's picture

Yea all that other stuff with GH is a bit silly in my opinion and can be dangerous but I understand what you're saying about synergy. Lol I see guys trying to imitate pros and that's not always a good thing. We see alot of those guys aren't around now unfortunately. As far as IGF, the possibility of increased tumors has always concerned me. But overall I agree, we have alot more things available nowadays. Good luck with GH and keep us updated my man.

Rosschestzip's picture

Bingo! My concerns also. I’m about to start upping my gh dose and I’m worried about the tumors and stuff with that also.

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DeeMan's picture

I don't blame you for being concerned. Especially if you have a family history of being predisposed to cancers and such. Not demonizing GH but you just never know. @Steeltoad777 man always take precaution and do what benefits you in a safe way and not what's benefited others lol. What high dose one man uses without any issues may have issues for another man at smaller doses. Just the way it is.

Rosschestzip's picture

Next week my moms going to a genetic cancers test thing. They’ll see if she’s genetically at higher risk to get more cancers and that’ll probably mean I will be too. So that’ll give me some piece of mind if it says I’m not at risk and if it says we are at risks then maybe cut the dose back

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DeeMan's picture

Yep. Now that's the way to do it. Be safe than sorry

Steeltoad777's picture

@DeeMan yeah Definitely a concern for me as well. I'm probably gonna keep the GH dose very low. Not going over 3/4 ius a day. I'm hoping for better fat loss around the midsection, being able to have a little more leeway with chest meals, better sleep/mood. I figure even a couple ius may be enough for me. We'll see.

DeeMan's picture

@Steeltoad777 Yea a couple IUs may be all you need at your age. Lol..listen don't listen to some of these guys that say x amount is useless. Not sure why they want to generalize but if your IGF 1 levels are above it's normal biological levels from injecting whatever amount of IUs of GH to get it to those numbers, then it's not useless. I'm still puzzled why guys say certain things lol. And I don't blame you for not going over 3 or 4 IU. Now of course more may give better results but that's not my point.

Rosschestzip's picture

That’s exactly what it did for me, I could eat a little bit less clean and stay at a bodyfat percentage as if I was eating cleaner than I was

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Steeltoad777's picture

What does were ya running?

DeeMan's picture

Your thinking is right

Rosschestzip's picture

When I got those benefits I was doing 3 ius a day. On my new cycle i just started, I’m up to 6 ius right now but haven’t noticed any fat loss yet but we’ll see

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wanted's picture

Any size change at 6 iu. Like new tissue or do you have to be up to 10 iu for that

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