Blast on prescribed trt... how to pass bloodwork
My nurse practitioner has me on 200mg a week of test cyp every two weeks. I give bloods once a month. I've been researching how to get away with a little blast. I'm considering blasting 500ish mg of TNE per week for the 2 weeks following my labs. Then having 2 weeks to get back into normal range. Also considering hgh low dose long term. Was thinking of 2-4 ius for 6-12 months, and blasting TNE for 2 weeks after bloodwork for the next 4-6 months. After I put on 20-30 lbs of lbm, probably just cruise on my trt dose and hgh.
I know I'm not the first to ask these questions. Would love to hear some personal experiences.
Could I run low dose dbol or anadrol or anavar for 2 weeks following bloods?
Looking for any ways I can get around levels looking suspicious.
Thanks in advance.
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Here's something you wrote below in the comments:
"I'm an addict in recovery so it's not out of the realm of possibilities that I could make a bad decision and end up back in rehab/jail"
In your post you're asking about how to make the exact same bad decision you simultaneously want to avoid.
The best favor you can do yourself is to stay stable with your TRT and be content as long as possible so that your brain makes lasting adjustments.
If that isn't convincing: It's possible that these "2-week mini blasts" that you're trying to get away with will still have lingering effects on your lipids/blood pressure/PSA/estrogen/shgb... causing your nurse practitioner to lower your 200mg dose downwards to 100-150mg since your "200mg dose appears to be bad for your health". Now your script is worse and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy where you'll end up getting more underground gear to make up for it.
You've got a good thing going right now man, trying to have your cake and eat it too is unlikely to turn out well. Best of luck.
Just food for thought if definitely know and anticipate you may face jailtime do you think you should change your way of thinking? Take this, you finally get on something you have been trying forever and your mind is trying to manipulate it and do everything against the rules that could jeopardize it. You have to get the mindset to stop sabotaging your own goals. You will get caught and will get thrown off trt. You're at a halfway house so i know you know cognitive behavior therapy. I dont want to see you back in jail because you still want to repeat old behaviors like making up the lie about going overseas. And if i read right you want to blast TNE because its like shooting dope everyday. You're sabotaging your sobriety and jail is eminent. Or you can just tell me shut the fuck up and mind my business lol
My brain is fried, I wrote this post too quickly without thinking how it would be interpreted. I don't want to blast TNE bc it's like shooting dope. I was just saying that I don't mind pinning. I like short esters bc of the immediate effect. Probably my impulsive tendencies. Another reason I like short esters is ... food costs a lot. Not sure if this has any science backing it up but when it comes down to it ... don't you spend more on food running longer cycles? If you're getting close to the same results from 6-8 weeks of prop compared to 10-12 of cyp/test e, bulking.... that extra 4-6 weeks of buying steaks fish milk protein powder/on cycle support etc... that shit adds up. Besides all the pinning, I don't see why a TNE cycle for 4/5 weeks wouldn't give you close to the gains you'd get from test cyp for 10 weeks. Minus the time/energy/cost of food/supplements etc.
I appreciate the words of encouragement and concern. Wish I'd worded this post better. Sobriety isn't my goal. I didn't ask for life advice. Don't mean to sound like a dick. I really do appreciate the concern. But ... all I wanna know is if there's guys in here with experience or knowledge about running cycles on trt, not alerting their doctors/raising red flags. What they used and how ie timing etc. I don't have charges, I'm not on probation. Not mandated here. I can leave whenever. If I lose this Dr it's not the end of the world. I'm just trying to have my cake and eat it too lol.
Im taking this opportunity to stay clean, get my sanity back. Clear my head. Set some goals. Clean my life up. Right now I'm focusing on exercise/spirituality/health. I'm blessed to have an opportunity to just focus on this. I'm getting free meals, as much as I can eat, free gym. I don't have to worry about anything else. No rent/bills. A couple groups a day and besides that I'm just working out/eating/napping. If I had a little more juice that would be ideal. There's not much I can besides get into awesome shape. Can't work here for first 3 months so... getting my body and mind right so mentally ill feel strong when I do have to come back out into the real world and be an adult/upstanding citizen/tax payer again, I'll be ready.
Understood. Well hope you get the right advice here. In seriousness though you should give up that halfway house bed to someone who can get more out of it. Line is too long out there and too many dying waiting for beds if sobriety isnt your goal.
Your brain is fried. Without food, how are you going to maintain your newfound muscle? More muscle = higher metabolism; higher metabolism = more calories burned (6 per pound of muscle); More calories = more food required.
There is no science to back your hypothesis. Plenty that supports the opposite.
If you're new in your TRT, still dialing it in, getting frequent blood tests, then don't blast and fuck everything up.
Once you're dialed in and blood tests are only once a year, then you can blast.
Learn about half-life's, The longer the ester, the higher the dosage, the longer to get back into normal range. Conversely, shorter esters, lower doses, shorter time.
Use a steroid cycle plotting chart to get a guesstimate as to when you would be back into normal range after quitting your blast. Then buffer that by a few weeks and plan that around your next blood test. I.e., If it takes you 4 weeks to get back into normal range post blast, make sure you're at least 6 weeks out from your next blood test.
For the first time (and hopefully not the last lol) Greg and I agree on something.
I came here with your mindset as soon as I got TRT. I was ready to blast any and everything. Then I met someone here and they talked to me at length. They explained how important it is to dial in your TRT dose. This is a lifelong thing. So having it dialed in is extremely important. They also explained your first cycle should be test only. See how you react. Then add one compound. See how you react again. Then repeat, but don’t do a cycle with three things, you need to see how you react to another new compound with a test base. Then when you find two compounds you can run successfully and like, then you can try to combine them.
Once you start adding things you’ve never taken, and you start getting sides, you’ll never know how to fix it because you won’t know where it’s coming from.
I waited months, with tons of gear next to me, running just my trt dose with monthly bloods. Once we got it at a good level, he just changed it to 3 months. I’m using the 3 months I got to run a test cycle. I’ll give myself 4-5 weeks of TRT dose to bring me back to normal ranges, and I’m hoping that as long as everything is fine, he’ll switch to either 6-12 months, giving me time to do my thing.
Be safe man. There is so much more to this than I ever thought. I’m also in recovery, and right now your brain is in addict mode and you just wanna inject anything as often as possible, because you like needles. I have the same problem. The feeling of injecting reminds me of getting high, and I’ll want to inject more test or whatever just so I can use a needle. I feel like you’re having this issue but aren’t able to control it. I have 8 years sober, so I’ve learned to have some patience. It’s not easy, but it’s doable.
Buddy I don’t believe you’re going to be able to beat a blood test, it’s not a piss test lol. If you really need to do something just get on the Hgh. Once your doc gets you all set up and you have bloodwork every 6 months then go for it.
Yeah i think I'm gonna spend my money on the gh. Would my trt doctor be checking my igf levels?
I should have explained this all better. She's not a trt doc... she's a nurse practitioner with no experience treating anyone with trt before. I knew more about all this than her. She's pretty ignorant/clueless. It's just taken me a long time to get trt, I don't wanna risk being "blacklisted" if that's even a thing. But now that hypogonadism is on my medical record, as long as I prove I'm not using aas on my own, it shouldn't be hard for me to continue getting prescribed trt, correct? Even if there's a lapse in prescriptions/bloodwork/Doctors visits?
I may just tell her I'm visiting my brother overseas for a few months. Come back in a few months and ask to get back on as her patient. Meantime I'll take advantage of not having her up my ass about what I'm taking.
You could use some TNE preworkout, but if I were in your situation, I would run an oral like Anadrol or Dbol, and.eat and train like beast.
Wouldn't orals mess with other numbers like lipids, estrogen, shbg etc etc etc?
Most definitely, but I don’t believe it’s going to spike your testosterone, which is primarily what they’ll be checking the most. I also wouldn’t think a two week run on either Dbol or Anadrol will have too much impact if you’re taking liver protection. Although, I’m no doctor over here. I’m just saying what I would probably do, especially if there was a chance of being in the can soon. My TRT would probably be the last thing on my mind. I’d be blasting a lot more stuff than you, LOL
Im not facing jail time as of now. Been making some dumb decisions the past few years tho so I just wanna be prepared if I do end up in jail/rehab etc. Without the script/diagnosis, people aren't sympathetic of how much low T plays a role in depression/anxiety etc. It took months of feeling depressed/suicidal and using street drugs before my doctor finally prescribed me trt. The system really sucks in more ways than one.
Not for nothing, but you get caught with pins in that half way house, your ass is gonna be on the street.
@Stokes500 Buddy you should delete your last post with the taboo talk in it
Or at least get rid of that part.
I did think that my self after I posted it , thanks for looking out bro
For what test c costs why not just drop the trt and start doing blast and cruise 200mg every 2 weeks what’s that cost to replace on the black market £3 if that ,then bloods around every few months. Obviously you’re not happy just on TRT
To be honest... I just want to be set up with medication in case I have to do any jail/prison time. Trying to bulk up as quick as possible and retain it if I end up doing time. I can maintain on 100mg a week but I can't get to where I wanna be, as fast as I'd like to on this dose.
I figure having been diagnosed with hypogonadism, I should be able to get trt from now on. I've just been seeing the same Dr for a while now, I've gained her trust.
I'm also at a halfway house that dispenses my meds. I don't wanna stop getting my prescribed trt. Want them to see I'm still on it
You waiting in halfway to go to prison? I usually hit halfway when I walk outta prison. Not on the way to it hahaha.
Sorry My brain is cooked lol. ... I should have rewritten this whole post. Could have worded it more clearly. I just want to know what I can get away with and how while on trt. I got on trt because... I want to be able to get it if I'm in hospitals or institutions. I don't have charges hanging over my head at the moment. I'm an addict in recovery so it's not out of the realm of possibilities that I could make a bad decision and end up back in rehab/jail. The halfway house I'm in holds all our meds. Just kicked a few guys out for finding rigs/bottles of test they had without prescription. I can tell the manager/workers here are jealous/resentful that I have needles and "drugs" in the house lol but... I got the script so they can't do shit.
This shit helps me stay focused on living a healthy lifestyle vs a highly unhealthy /toxic one. Steroids vs hard drug addiction it's a no brainier which is a better quality of life for me.
Blasting tne is silly. Youre going to pin every 4-6 hours on the dot without stopping for weeks.. Maybe wait til your dr gets you settled. And switch to 1pin per week per 5-7 day half life.
I used to shoot dope every two hours for years straight lol. Pinning isn't a problem. I've run TNE before. Tren base. I'm worried more about not raising any red flags. Need levels to look good.