posted Mon, 03/11/2024 - 21:05
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+ 1 Does anyone get PIP from Prop?
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I haven't had PIP from testosterone propionate in a decade or longer. I used to get it all the time, every injection. At best it was like getting hit in the ass or shoulder with a bat, at worst it was comparable to DHB. I'm just curious if my virgin muscles toughened up or if it's all about the recipes improving. I hear people mention PIP a lot but I've only had it recently from DHB and highly concentrated gear.
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Only time I’ve gotten pip was from high dosed sustanon, it was from a well known international source, the pain was crippling, my entire buttock was one huge knot
The 100 mg/ml prop i just got doesn't give me even a hint of PIP.
The only times I have had PIP from Prop have been when I have taken a gamble and bought a cheap unknown Lab back in the early years when I knew no better, had a Kneecap lump up into a tennis ball once and it even cut half the circulation to my foot off during the night. Other than that I can shoot large volumes of it and never get it, I used 200mg/ml Superprop for years and was fine. I would say about 90% of people don't tolerate it well.
I've seen the 200mg around and steered clear of it bc I figured the PIP was bad. You're saying no PIP?
I don't get PIP from it, I do think your muscle gets use to having oils in it over the years and reacts less and less - it won't see it as a threat anymore. Try a vial and see, I just cannot get it over here anymore but there are US Domestics selling it quite regularly. Just think about all the PIP you probably got on your very first cycle compared to now with the same compounds.
Frankie fire was top shelf. I still see similar label new name on here
Yes the recipes have improved. The ester itself has a bit to do with it, but nowadays with MCT oil I've never had any PIP either.
Golden age of anabolics! Cheap/quality generic GH, a plethora of quality domestic UGLs, all the peptides available, the amount of research/knowledge out there, YouTube educational videos. Hopefully they'll brew the PIP out of DHB soon.
I’ve only gotten one sources dhb and it had no pip for me. But I defiantly think the overall quality of carrier oils and brewing methods or whatver has improved. I don’t really get pip from anything besides winstrol and test suspension, also I don’t have to heat any oil anymore. When I first got into gear everyone would say you need two different size needles, a 20g for drawing up and 25g for injecting. Now I use a 25g for both with no issue at all. So things definitely have changed. Also The dhb came from one of the top three domestic sources here, they have purple tops
I’ve only ever gotten PIP from one sources Prop. Never used them again and never had the issue again. It has to be twelve years since then. Could have been the carrier oil I was allergic to or something because I never hear anyone complaining about his gear.
I'll rehash what Dee and Jock have already stated. I do get PIP from prop, but it is more tolerable than what it used to be... It no longer feels like someone has taken a baseball bat to my shoulder post injection.
For real. Shit was paaaaaainful.
And that's exactly what it use to feel like...and don't get me started on the test 400 that was loaded with prop....man crippling for over a week along with test flu for damn near a week.
I never tried it. But I have heard some horror stories about certain gear and the PIP it causes. The worst I personally ever had was from a domestic source that is no longer around. It wasn't anything special - just some Test E 300. I walked with a limp for days that was so bad, one might have assumed I had cerebral palsy (with all due respect to people who have that disability). I think the carrier oil did not agree with me. Then again, given the credibility of the source, in hindsight, there is no telling what was in that vial.
I think I know exactly who you're talking about. I used test300 from that src and it did give the worst pip ever. But what he eventually told me was he reused the same filter over and over and that caused alot of problems with the oil.
Good question..yea the brewing has gotten better, for an example using mct oil provides better holding of hormones. Quality of raw powder are also a bit better nowadays. The pH, storage, and impurities in raws etc can contribute to pip also.
I remember hearing back in the day how prop put folks in wheelchairs. But nowadays I've come across way smoother prop though it still gives me pip.
Yeah you'd have to warn guys who considered using it on their first cycle how bad it was. A lot of people wouldn't wanna deal with it. And it usually was worse not the following day but the day after is when it really started hurting.
O yeah the following day they think they're in the clear then....BOOM it hits ya. But I will say it's a bitter better than the pip it gave some years ago.
Imo the brewing got better. Brands found out the customers stick around if its not battery acid.
It was hard to find places to pin. I only did my gluets and delts back then so I barely had enough time before I had to pin a spot that was already sore as fuck.
I know u remember that test 400 that was loaded with test prop. Was from another country, I won't name the brand
I read many stories and stayed clear. Lol!
Lucky rascal you Lol! Gotten better though
I ran a sustanon yrs ago that was 'famed'. Bat to thighs pip but talk about solid gains in strength and size. Im very glad newer techniques today.
Yea I heard that " famed" or brand of sustanon was off the chain! I heard alot of things about it.