posted Sun, 09/03/2023 - 10:19
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So half of everyone says test e at 300mg/ week and half say 5-600mg/ week. Give me all your experiences and thoughts please. 26 will be running my first cycle, good diet and training regiment.
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250mg every 4 days,.....................involves the use of a calendar.
Equals 437.5mg/wk.
How can you go wrong??
Don't answer that!!
Valhalla0411What? Did you even read through the thread lol.
stolenbases_sdIs it dosed 250mg? If so make it simple and do 500 a week. Monday and Thursday. I prefers shorter esters due to more stable levels. For me I choose test propionate for my cycles. I don’t mind pinning often. You’ll have awesome results from 500mg test weekly. I keep an ai on hand (aromasin for me). Can always start on the lower end of dosage and work up. Nothing wrong with that.
Byron777Neither. Primo or EQ should lead the way.
Hello,
Just my opinion with 200mg pharma grade weekly you get awesome effect on body and mind if your diet / training are ok (~_~) and get around 1100 to 1300 ng .
So 300 mg it's a good spot
300mgs, easier to manage sides but I do tend to run my cycles a bit longer. I really enjoyed a 16 week cycle of test e @ 300 mgs with Var on the back end. I ran var 30 mgs wk 8 until finish but you shouldn’t run longer then 6 weeks.
Valhalla0411Hey boss, just an update from last time but im on week 4. Running 600mg a week Test E. 300mg sunday and Wednesday. Feeling absolutely amazing, haven't felt this good in a long time.my bodyweight is up by 6 pounds, all my lifts are up by 15lbs or more depending on the lift and my physique is definitely changing.
Interesting how you were advised by several people to do between 300 and 500, you said you were going to do 300, and you end up doing 600. And now you think you might have some estro issues.
Staying at 500 would have reduced your risk and you'd feel just as good. And your levels haven't peeked yet.
Valhalla0411Ya i get what your saying, i decided to go with makwas and my uncles advice in the end. The estro issues are mainly from the lifestyle i had before doing this And genetics, im sensitive to certain things same as my dad, He's told me about all his gear experiences, but one tablet of aromasin flattened my chest out overnight. As of right now im on the end of week 4. My test e is 300mg/ml so i pin 300 twice a week. Just started my anavar Thursday doing 50mg a day, 25mg in the morning then 25mg 6 hours later. Liver support and omega oils. Diets on point, about to switch my training up, my home gym is about at its limit for what i need but thankfully the new gym location here in town is about to open back up. Im up 9.7 pounds, noticeably larger shoulders longer lately, fuller arms, love handles gone. Gunna get bloodwork done next week
If you had to pop some asin you are going to need to for the rest of the cycle from here on out. 25mg EOD and get bloodwork in a week or two just to confirm.
Valhalla0411Yessir, got plenty of aromasin, currently doing 12.5mg eod till monday when i get bloodworm done then i can adjust my dosing as needed. Ill be on week 6 monday.
We’ll see how you manage estro sides when they come on. We’re here if you need to be advised but I wouldn’t have made that jump. Good on you for experiencing positive results but that can change.
Valhalla0411Thanks boss, im definetly keeping tabs on myself and how my body is changing good and bad, not trying to sound arrogant but I've got a pretty decent sense of when things are happening that aren't normal for me weather good or bad. Getting bloodwork on the 16th hopefully, that'll be the day after my 11th pin, beginning of week 6.
I'm the impatient type plus older (54) so not worried about shutting down my already rock bottom test levels. I started on 900mg per week & immediately noticed the side effects. I've since pulled that down to 600mg split into 2 x 300mg doses into the delts. I think this is my maximum with a slight nipple sensation for one day after pinning so I'll stick to this dose
Brother, I’m in my late 30’s. My first cycle was at 300 mg per week (150mg 2x a week) I felt like I had the same amount of test as two 18 year olds COMBINED. Gains came at an alarming rate and my girl got her guts rearranged. Fat basically melted, body temperature was raised throughout the day, energy was ridiculous, slept like a baby at night, my estro raised but that’s it. Adex fixed that easy. Try 300 brother, I’m sure you’ll be in the upper echelon zone. Get it brother!
What you said. 600mgs on a first is wild lol.
Yea I agree. Not sure why these guys shoot for the moon on first cycle. What's the second, third and fourth cycle going to be.
Definitely less patience these days. Then the second cycle ends up with tren…..
Yea that's usually the pattern
Gimme now society... Comfortable with convenience society....I can go on and on. I can't understand but this is the norm nowadays.
We’re getting old…..:
I know lol. How you been man? I hope all is good with you.
Just had some shoulder surgery, but otherwise all grand here. You good?
Damn hate to hear that. Wishing you a speedy recovery.
One of my workout partners has to have a total knee replacement. It was strange because everytime we squat he'd complain and now we know why. No damn cartilage. I've been fortunate through all the heavy squats and benchpress to only have a rotator cuff injury many years ago. We aren't meant to constantly lift those heavy ass weights lol, like my man Ronnie Coleman once said.
Age starting to catch up with me now mate, I’m closing in on 50. My right shoulder is already a wreck with no cartilage , this was my “good one”, (the left), that’s now joined the wrecked club. At least I’m more symmetrical now lol.
Hey father time is the undisputed World champ. Damn no cartilage huh? Sorry to hear that. Hey look at my man Ronnie Coleman. I kid you not, I saw that dude in his prime up close hit 225 pounds seventy -two times, and I also saw him years later after all the surgeries. Night and day. Thing is he says he'd do it all over again if he could. Sick dude man!
Man is a legend. Apparently an exceptionally nice guy too.
Just saw this comment but yeah without saying too much he's a cool cat for sure. As a cop the dude didn't like writing tickets lol.. said it interfered with his meal time. And for those folks thinking it was all drugs for him, nahh, if they saw his mom they would know better. She looked like Miss Olympia for an older woman. Her damn arms lol. She passed away but you would have to have see her seriously. That's why I emphasize genetics my brother. Drugs only do so much as we know. Anyways sorry for that rant.
Yea old, outdated and out of touch! They are the " new breed"...we're dinosaurs
Valhalla0411Not sure how many cycles im going to run but i know id like to do a deca cycle and a primo cycle eventually?
Some of us may not agree with 600mg but at the end of the day just be safe brother, that's all the matters man. Good luck.
I mean I have no issues with what you want to do in future after some experience but the 600mg surprised me. But hey it's your decision just be safe man.
Valhalla0411I mean dropping to 500 wouldn't be hard. My test is 300mg/ml, only reason im doing 600 instead of 500mg per week
Yea easy fix at .7ml
No need to go up and down with dosages unless needed. I'm just set with a certain beginners cycle in my head for all newbs. You've been given alot of good advice which is to your benefit. One thing though..you DO NOT want to block or lower e2 too much. Some e2 (estrogen) is needed for growth and well being.
Good stuff brother
At the end of the day it's your decision and your decision only. Just glad you're getting advice. Just be smart and go by how you feel, but more importantly bloods. Some say 300 and others said 500. Personally I stand on 300 ish for a newbie. I wish you luck brother.
500mg. This cycle is where you learn about your estro conversion and how do dose your AI. 300mg shuts you down just as hard as 500mg so might as well get more bang for your buck if you are going to risk ruining your HPTA.
Valhalla0411On week 4, went with your advice, loving the feeling i have on a daily basis, just overall feel amazing mentally and physically.
Keep your estro in check and it will be good ride.
Valhalla0411Definitely, I've come to figure out ive had high estrogen for a while because ive been smoking weed since i was 16 medicinally thought i just had a very hard time working chest which was wierd because i can always feel my pecs being workes but nipples got puffy a few nights ago finally so i popped a aromasin that night and my chest is looking Very nice now
300 to 500, in this case I'd go 500 for a modest, short cycle.
The first cycle is not about the gains, it's about testing, learning and doing. Seeing how you react, how it feels, how you respond, and the discipline to stick with the cycle as planned.
The second cycle, same as the first but maybe a little longer. Beyond that, you can start thinking about tweaking what works, dosage, duration; add an extra compound.
Valhalla0411How long we talking? Im planning 300mg test e every week for 12 weeks.
10 weeks would be my target on E for the first cycle. In fact, that was my first cycle
That's good, if that's what you're comfortable with, stick with it. But at your age and natural high levels (presumably) I'd go with 500mg for the reasons Makwa stated.
For example (this is just an example with easy math) Let's say your natural levels are 1000, you take 300mg per week (150mg Tues and Thursdays), which shuts down your natural production. You wait 6 weeks and get bloodwork and find your levels are still at 1000 or there abouts. At 64 my natural levels are low, if they suddenly shot up 800 points to 1000... I'd be damn sure to notice.
As a side note. Get your test levels checked before you start your cycle. This will be your baseline; you'll know how good the product is after 6 weeks on cycle (the time your levels should have peaked). And you'll know when you've fully recovered from the cycle.
Valhalla0411Ok good to know, and i have an appointment scheduled for a physical and blood serum test for all my hormone levels
I always tell beginners to run a cycle of 300mg a week for 8-12 weeks. 300 is plenty and you will get a good idea of what test can do. Some are more sensitive to test where they run 300 and get crazy side but many do not. The second cycle is where I tell them to run 500. You already know what 300 is like and your body knows and is somewhat familiar with exogenous. test. 300 is more manageable than 500. You may not need an AI but always get bloods done to confirm.
It's a common sense approach no doubt. And you're right, some are more sensitive to test than others. I just can't understand why would a newbie rush to 500mg or more. Lol you're a newbie and you're gonna grow regardless of dose!
Valhalla0411300 was definitely my original plan, but the. Everyone's like do this so i came here because i knew id get better opinions with actual reasoning behind it! Thanks everyone for the words of wisdom!
Hey man don't think I was referring to you, I was speaking in general. But I do want to ask you now what are you thinking? 300? 400?
And what are those others telling you? I'm curious.
We also gotta remember alot of veteran guys like myself do know alot but we aren't always right. I remember back in the day when most vets thought in order to grow that 500mg/week minimum was needed...not always the case. Lol that dosage was the rage back then. But anyways what are your thoughts?
Valhalla0411I was told at first 5-600 to grow, the test e that i got is 300mg/ml. But after thought and everyones words im going with 300 for 12 weeks. Its my first cycle so i do want to see how my body reacts at a lower dose first. Its not like im trying to gain crazy fast and get all big. I do want to grow a little bigger and get a little cut going but when im actually working for it i look really good, my main problem is due to genects my chest back and neck get way bigger than my arms and shoulders most of the time, they will platuea while the other areas keep growing so i figure by getting a little gear and refocusing part of my workout isolate my problem areas Its a good possibility to reproportion my physique.