posted Tue, 01/23/2024 - 18:35
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Guidance on first cycle
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Wanting some opinions, straight to the chase: I’m 36 and have pharm test c and pharm hcg available. Im tempted to run a small test only cycle with a pct (I’d get probably grab enclo as well depending on what was outlined for me). I would more than likely use a coach as the pct timing seems confusing at points. My question is at my current age is cycling going to be so harsh on the body that I’d be better off waiting a few years and just doing hrt? Just looking for opinions. Also I’m about fifteen pounds overweight, got injured on a bulk I’ll take that off in about 2 months but I know it gets brought up a lot.
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Here is the thing with pct... I dont understand why take steroids to later - not take them? You do know that in most cases, 3 years after your cycle and struggle and potential risks of pct, nothing will say that you once took steroids?
What you wanna do is like spin a russian roulette just once and if u survive, gain nothing from it in the long run... Why?
I agree with Makwa on the bodyfat however you can still cycle around 20% just know you better have AI on standbye and your macros dialed. You also will have more sides at a lower dose. 400/wk seems to be a good ceiling if around 20%. I recommend diet down first
Lay your proposed cycle including PCT out and we will know if it is out of whack. I wouldn't be running a cycle until under 15% BF.
Agreed with Makwa. I would try to lose about 10-15lbs first and then proceed if you feel the need to. I do highly recommend Test only on your first cycle just so that you can get dialed in and have bloodwork ran and know for future cycles how our body reacts to Test. HCG, Clomid and Tamoxifene (Nolva) would be ideal. You can research dosages as everyone seems to handle compounds different. I would run something like HCG 250iu/x3 a week, Clomid 50mg/ed 4-6/wks and Nolva 20mg/ed 4-6wks. This is a typical PCT, slightly overkill, but will have your hormones back on track in no time. Also, I don't PCT anymore as I'm on TRT and just cycle here and there enjoying the arts of BB. Hope this helps!
Definitely get under 20% bf first so you don't have a crazy amount of side effects to, also are you looking to bulk or to cut up.
DerpityderpCut. Not even looking to get completely peeled honestly, just trying to preserve muscle. I don’t wanna be the cry baby that blames their genetics but I’ve always had to carry a lot of fat to have decent muscle mass. The inverse being I always look like a fucking cyclist when I’m lean. Life’s hard sometimes.
Def get a little under 20% BF, the lower the better. Get some bloods done to make sure there’s nothing going on that you can’t see. Then go for it, testosterone in the 300-500mg range weekly is going to give you some good results if diet and training is on point. PCT is always a dice roll, but at 36 it’s even more so, there’s always a possibility you won’t bounce back. Again, another reason for bloodwork, see where your base levels are. Good luck and have fun with it!
DerpityderpYeah good point about the bloods, I’m sitting here worried about bouncing back at my age but if my numbers are already not great after diet and nutrition intervention then its not as though I’m risking alot
Exactly, once you get everything confirmed that your body can handle it, your improvements will just keep going. If you don’t bounce back (confirmed by bloodwork) you’ll be looking at forever injections which suck. I found my sweet spot to be 125mg every 7 days. Sometimes I get preoccupied and it’ll be 8 days, anything after that and I start feeling shitty. You’ll figure it out. Post a pic of your physique (no judgement) it’ll give us a better idea of your foundation.
DerpityderpHonestly brother I went to take a physique pic and realized I do not even need to be in this conversation yet --. You ever bulk, get a small injury, then just not adjust your calories to maintenance? lol shits not pretty over here. I’m gonna have to access in the springtime --
Thumbs up for making the right decision. But stick around and be active in the community here until you’re ready. You’ll pick up lots of great info.
Start at 2,700 a day calories and monitor that for a month. If you are +/- 2.5 pounds you’ve found your maintenance. Adjust from there for cut.