2nd cycle
Second cycle advice. Currently taking 75mg anadrol and 750 Test. I am on 3rd week of Anadrol. Started first 2 weeks at 500 test 50 Ad now in 3rd wk 750, 75. Only will run Anadrol 4 weeks total. I want to run another cpl months like 3 or 4 month cycle. Right now incredibly strong, good gains not as much water as I thought. I'm looking to keep gaining quality muscle but also be able to see everything. Don't want bloat. Want to lower test significantly. I still want size though number 1. Any remendations?
1st cycle was 500 test 400 npp. Great results lots of water and bloat. I then was on 200 to 300 test for like 3 months now running 2nd cycle. Some weeks on cruise I'd bump test up a week not often. Anyway responded well to all drugs so far. Been working out 6 years pretty regularly. Late last year crossed over after seeing guys at my gym work not as hard as me and look phenomenal. Lol. Thanks everyone.
BTW I have 2 primo 200 and 3 dhb 100s that were in a storage facility. Little nervous because of EXTREME temperature variations and not optimal storing conditions temp wise overall. Kinda thinking of pounds like EQ, Anavar, low test. Want tren but the sleep thing would be a deal breaker. Im 6'2 210. Wanna get to 225 low body fat. Started journey last year around 190. I'm eating around 4000 calories a day. Mostly eggs, chicken, pasta. Little veggies, honey buns for easy calories. Ill get labs too. Wondeing if primary would order ones needed. I have arimadex if needed but havent felt i need it so far both cycles. Willing to order any compounds right away if someone can help me put together a stack for remainder of cycle. Thank you for your knowledge and time.
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Around the same height and weight. 6'2 and 220 in the morning. Don't know my body fat but don't care rn. I would say add some beef to that diet it helps build weight and muscle
anvilCouple things here, I don't think you are reading the blood work correctly if you are using 75mg anadrol daily, if you are looking to be lean don't use anadrol. You don't need a stack for the remainder of this cycle. I have a friend who is not a pro bodybuilder, and sometimes they full blast for 2 years and cruise at high doses. But you my friend are over 6 feet and barely 2bones. Slow the roll, get labs, figure out what you need and what you are doing long before you start it. Not during the cycle. PM me if you need further assistance, I'd be willing to help.
I've got two labs from my doctor that were fine. They didn't measure some specifics though and I'll get the right one. I'm learning. I have a BP machine and I'm always 120/80. I haven't had any high estrogen symptoms so I haven't added the arimadex. I plan on getting labs asap. I'm also going to lower my test this week to 200 keep the ad for like 11 more days then go from there. I have a friend who was a pro bodybuilder who says cruising doesn't happen as much as one thinks. He says ppl lie. Once you start losing strength, size etc the cruise is out the window. At any rate willing to learn.
Yea that’s when you’re well above your genetic limit of muscle mass. No insult intended here, but you’re not there. Even 200mg/wk is more test than you’d need to maintain your current size. They might still cruise but it’s probably something like 300 test plus 200-300 primo as their “cruise” and those guys also have a shorter life expectancy. Don’t kill yourself over a hobby.
Thanks for the advice bruh! I took a 200 mg test shot today. I'll stay w that, finish my 11 days of anadrol then take it easy for a while. Or maybe under 2 test and some eq for 2 to 3 months then really cruise fr this time. I was on trt they prescribed me 100. I stopped going because a buddy said they'll know I'm on gear when I was doing the npp. Any advice on how long a cruise? I am glad I found this forum.
People here like to do time on = time off. I cut on my cruise. Last cut I did was 12ish weeks at 150mg/wk and then leveled out to maintenance cals for another like 5-6 weeks still at 150 mg/wk. I was 230# start of that cut and ended at like 212#. On just 150mg/wk. But you essentially want to be in “healthy” bloodwork ranges for quite some time before hopping back on. You can only redline the engine so much before you end up like Jo Linder…not to make light of a death but that’s the end consequence of our lifestyle if you’re not careful.
Also if you’re only doing one shot a week you should consider splitting that up in to a minimum of 2x per week for hormone stability. Vast hormone fluctuations are what cause all the noticeable sides/swings people attribute to gear use.
I appreciate it. I'll do the same 4 months at 150 get labs. I got the site so basically I want the cmp, cbc, lipid panel and estradiol? I think it's 60.00 bucks not bad.
You can also test for Prolactin and SHBG , you can also add in some proviron to your stack.
And test total/free. You’ll wanna know where 150mg/wk puts you. Some are hyper responders and can get close to 1000 total on just 100-125/wk. or you don’t respond well and you need 200 to get to 1000. Just gotta do bloods and find out your body
So a 1000 is a good range to be?
It’s top end of the range. If all your bloodwork is in healthy ranges, blood pressure, etc then I don’t see why not. If I’m going to be doing exogenous test test of my life might as well go as high in the range as my body safely allows. Once again this all varies person to person. Someone might be elevated E2, crashed HDL, and jacked up CBC numbers on being that high. You gotta find out what works best for you through bloodwork and lots of it. I get bloodwork probably 6-8 times per year. It’s a cost associated with running gear that you always need to factor in.
You've been running one long ass cycle at this point. Lots of guys will tell noobs to run 250-300 mg/wk of test for 12 weeks as a first cycle. You shouldn't need that amount of compounds to build muscle this early in the game. There's absolutely no reason for you to be adding anything more here.
No just running Anadrol for first 4 weeks. Looking for what to run for next 2 or 3 months.
Lower that test dose you don't need it that high and add in either EQ or primo . Plus get in some blood work if you have never done one instead of running cycles blindly. You don't need more compounds especially since it’s your 2nd cycle, people usually do only test as a first cycle.
I'll lower the test and run eq. Maybe like 1 to 200 test and 3 or 400 eq after my last cpl was of anadrol. Any good source info for labs?
It's pretty stupid you haven't ran labs before, during and after your first cycle and now you're on your second cycle. https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/blood-testing-resourc...
https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/blood-work-bibl...
It’s not a first and second cycle he’s still on his first. He ran his “first” and then cruised on 2-300 test and “sometimes more” and then upped the test and added anadrol and now wants to know what more he can add to this shit show blender
Oh doesn't seem he has done any blood work also crazy how some people run things blindly. 200-200 test isn’t even a cruise dose wonder where he’s getting his info from.
Plus extra on some weeks also lol so basically cruising at like 400
Thats dumb i hope he gets in some blood work at least.
3-4 months of Adrol is a stupid idea, For you not needing arimidex at those dosages you're better doing blood tests to determine what your E2 ranges are.
This has gotta be a joke?! Youre running mega cycles too long. Why?
It’s a joke to everyone but him
Certainly is ridiculous either way.
Queue the defensive response in 3….2…1….
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I mean that adds up to a nearly 1g first cycle weighing in at 190 and probably like 15-18% bf at best. He didn’t state bf, I’m just assuming best case scenario lol and those %s are it.