I have ran both.i save a lot of money running Hyges. I ran 3.5iu of Phama norditopin and I run 5iu of Hyges. Had my igf levels tested on both. My igf was 472 on pharma and it was 496 on Hyges. So I figured I'd save the money and stay on hyges.keep I'm mind igf can be effected by many things.my friend runs 3iu of pharm and his igf was up I'm the 600s.
Aside from how much somatropin the is in each vial and the purity. You have to consider the quality. Chinese hgh like hyges is not as clean as Pharma. The generics can carry contamination that Pharma won't have ever.
Look at igf levels from hygetropin. That will give an idea. I've heard people say 1iu pharm = 2 hyge I've also heard someone say 1iu pharm = 5-8iu hyges lol so there is no real answer. In all honesty from what I've gathered 2iu pharm should be similar to 5iu hyge but who knows it could be much closer.
Igf tests for rips and hyges at 6iu should be 500-600 more or less and it only takes about 3 iu pharma to bring igf past 500. in general.
igf tests will vary between individuals as you can see. it seems hygetropin brown tops are overdosed so a lower dose is needed to bring igf levels up. Sorry I couldn't really show much examples of igf levels from ppl on pharm but there seems to be a lack of testing. pharma generally will show a slightly higher igf with lower dose
The old lab mass specs that are around page 11-13 for hygetropins showed the largest quantity of somatropin in a vial was .55mg. That's 1 vial, we know that with pharmaceutical grade HGH 1mg Somatropin=3.3iu's. So from that we can deduce that 20iu's of hyge's = 3iu's of Pharma. Or we can simplify that down to roundabout 6iu's hyges = 1iu pharma.
;P
I went and did the research through all the mass spec tests the other day to see what product was actually the best value. Turns out pharma is actually cheaper =/
I think the argument is about consistency. Mass specs on Hyges may very well range from .55 to 3.6. Then it's a matter of luck. Pharma is consistently high quality. Right now Hyges seem to be testing high but let's not take it for granted. I'd like to give a big shout out and thanks for the dudes getting the stuff tested and bloodwork. As long as that's good, compared to Norditropin, I like the Hyges. However, i'm looking to get genuine Jintropin for the same consistency and just a little bit more.
I hear ya. Mine are coming from the source for HK found on the GenSci website. The rep. for Primal Pharmacy set it up with a licensed distributor. Otherwise I wouldn't even bother. If it works out. I'll let you all know. I think EuroPharm can supply Licensed Pharmacies in Europe and there are places in S. America. N. America is shit out of luck. The cost is about $270 per 100iu. More than Hyges but they should be consistent.
In China near Hong Kong. Made my run today and got 200iu Jintropin from the pharmacy. I even paid with a credit card. All verifications check out. They have little hairs under the sticker and they're arranged into a pattern you can verify as well as the number.
I don't know if I should start them or finish my batch of hyges first.
Maybe this would be true on some red or blue tops which is garbage anyway and no one should buy it. But this is def inaccurate if you are comparing them to Hyges. Plus mass specs isn't the real way to go to test hgh. Growth serum and igf levels is the way to test hgh and its potency.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to argue. Just trying to discuss. 5iu of Hyges raised my igf more then 3.5 iu of pharma. Not by much but enough to show can achieve the same results on Hyges and save money. I agree Phama is better but blood work doesn't lie. And my blood shows that 1iu of pharma doesn't equal 6iu of Hyges. I can't comment on mass specs but I can comment on my igf levels. I will post the results tom because I already posted a pic today
I've been running 80iu's a week of generic blue tops for 3.5 weeks now and am going to go get my igf levels tested to see if they actually do anything.
I wasn't running any hgh before this so if my levels aren't above normal even than the stuff is definitely garbage.
I wont use blue yellow red or any tops. I didn't even want to try Hyges but my hgh guy swore by them after he ran out of pharma. I agree with you on that. If there is any hgh in those blue tops at all it's prob minimal at best. I was just comparing my experience with Hyges and norditopin pens since I have run both for longer then 6 months each and notice little difference at the doses I mentioned. The post was nordtropin vs Hyges lol
Well there are some lab tests in the labs section that you could go through that would give you an idea of how much somatropin is in a vial of hygetropin.
Once you figure that out, compare it with the amount of somatropin in whatever size norditropin you get and you will have your answer.
Why did this dude get banned
hard to say depends on the age of the person and how long they been using HGH
Cocopuffgood studies yall! can save everyone some bucks buying the hyges
I have ran both.i save a lot of money running Hyges. I ran 3.5iu of Phama norditopin and I run 5iu of Hyges. Had my igf levels tested on both. My igf was 472 on pharma and it was 496 on Hyges. So I figured I'd save the money and stay on hyges.keep I'm mind igf can be effected by many things.my friend runs 3iu of pharm and his igf was up I'm the 600s.
Can you PM me the source for your hyges? Trying to find quality source.
Thanks in advance
I got them from a local source my dude
Cocopuffall the hyges that can be verified are the same lol, practically all the sources carry the same shit.
This is true.
Aside from how much somatropin the is in each vial and the purity. You have to consider the quality. Chinese hgh like hyges is not as clean as Pharma. The generics can carry contamination that Pharma won't have ever.
interesting
Look at igf levels from hygetropin. That will give an idea. I've heard people say 1iu pharm = 2 hyge I've also heard someone say 1iu pharm = 5-8iu hyges lol so there is no real answer. In all honesty from what I've gathered 2iu pharm should be similar to 5iu hyge but who knows it could be much closer.
Igf tests for rips and hyges at 6iu should be 500-600 more or less and it only takes about 3 iu pharma to bring igf past 500. in general.
3.33 iu hyges - 358igf
http://www.eroids.com/pics/igf-1-brown-top-hyges
4iu rips - 362igf
http://www.eroids.com/pics/head-to-head-vips-vs.-rips-comparison-igf-1-l...
2iu brown hyges - 461igf
http://www.eroids.com/pics/1-month-brown-top-hyges-2ius-6-days-a-week-ig...
2iu nord/2iu rips - 446 igf
http://www.eroids.com/pics/post-pct-bloods-igf1
igf tests will vary between individuals as you can see. it seems hygetropin brown tops are overdosed so a lower dose is needed to bring igf levels up. Sorry I couldn't really show much examples of igf levels from ppl on pharm but there seems to be a lack of testing. pharma generally will show a slightly higher igf with lower dose
Awesome response +1
waltrThe old lab mass specs that are around page 11-13 for hygetropins showed the largest quantity of somatropin in a vial was .55mg. That's 1 vial, we know that with pharmaceutical grade HGH 1mg Somatropin=3.3iu's. So from that we can deduce that 20iu's of hyge's = 3iu's of Pharma. Or we can simplify that down to roundabout 6iu's hyges = 1iu pharma.
;P
I went and did the research through all the mass spec tests the other day to see what product was actually the best value. Turns out pharma is actually cheaper =/
pretty sure i've seen mass specs with 3.6mg present in a vial. if only going by mass spec thats not good.
I have friends who have ran 3iu pharma and they got better results with 8iu hyges and still are only paying 1/3 the price.
I think the argument is about consistency. Mass specs on Hyges may very well range from .55 to 3.6. Then it's a matter of luck. Pharma is consistently high quality. Right now Hyges seem to be testing high but let's not take it for granted. I'd like to give a big shout out and thanks for the dudes getting the stuff tested and bloodwork. As long as that's good, compared to Norditropin, I like the Hyges. However, i'm looking to get genuine Jintropin for the same consistency and just a little bit more.
Real Jins are da shit but there are a shit ton of fake ones so be careful
I hear ya. Mine are coming from the source for HK found on the GenSci website. The rep. for Primal Pharmacy set it up with a licensed distributor. Otherwise I wouldn't even bother. If it works out. I'll let you all know. I think EuroPharm can supply Licensed Pharmacies in Europe and there are places in S. America. N. America is shit out of luck. The cost is about $270 per 100iu. More than Hyges but they should be consistent.
Where u live nikka
In China near Hong Kong. Made my run today and got 200iu Jintropin from the pharmacy. I even paid with a credit card. All verifications check out. They have little hairs under the sticker and they're arranged into a pattern you can verify as well as the number.
I don't know if I should start them or finish my batch of hyges first.
Nice you the first dude I seem on here from china who isn't a source lol
I'm here but not from here. I'm going to finish my hyges before i start the Jins. so, i'll report on them at the end of October.
Let me know how they are
Ok. I'm starting them tomorrow. I'm just half through the hyges but...I want to try the Jins now.
I could only find mass specs on mutas Hyges. Did I miss them?
waltrhttp://www.eroids.com/pics/b1002hg-brown-top-hygetropin
http://www.eroids.com/pics/pharma-igf-vs-generic-igf
Maybe this would be true on some red or blue tops which is garbage anyway and no one should buy it. But this is def inaccurate if you are comparing them to Hyges. Plus mass specs isn't the real way to go to test hgh. Growth serum and igf levels is the way to test hgh and its potency.
waltrlol
the mass spec tells you HOW MUCH somatropin is in the vial....
the purity is nice to know, but the quantity of the drug you're wanting to inject is the more important factor ;P
I'm not gonna argue though, rock on with the hyge's more pharma for me [plus i'll save money]
Sorry, I wasn't trying to argue. Just trying to discuss. 5iu of Hyges raised my igf more then 3.5 iu of pharma. Not by much but enough to show can achieve the same results on Hyges and save money. I agree Phama is better but blood work doesn't lie. And my blood shows that 1iu of pharma doesn't equal 6iu of Hyges. I can't comment on mass specs but I can comment on my igf levels. I will post the results tom because I already posted a pic today
waltrI'd be interested to see it.
I've been running 80iu's a week of generic blue tops for 3.5 weeks now and am going to go get my igf levels tested to see if they actually do anything.
I wasn't running any hgh before this so if my levels aren't above normal even than the stuff is definitely garbage.
I wont use blue yellow red or any tops. I didn't even want to try Hyges but my hgh guy swore by them after he ran out of pharma. I agree with you on that. If there is any hgh in those blue tops at all it's prob minimal at best. I was just comparing my experience with Hyges and norditopin pens since I have run both for longer then 6 months each and notice little difference at the doses I mentioned. The post was nordtropin vs Hyges lol
Steveb+1 for this info. I'm glad I have been buying brown top Hygetropin this whole time.
waltrWell there are some lab tests in the labs section that you could go through that would give you an idea of how much somatropin is in a vial of hygetropin.
Once you figure that out, compare it with the amount of somatropin in whatever size norditropin you get and you will have your answer.
your123manI think its very debatable... Ive heard people say "oh i took 10iu of xxx chinese and it doesnt even compare to 2iu of xxx pharma".
igf tests and lots of time and $ will be the only way to really dial down a range..
It is def debatable. But you hit the nail on the head. Blood test will show it.
StevebWhat?
valhallas besthe means how many IUs of hyges does he have to do to equal one IU of pharma norditropin