posted Tue, 07/16/2013 - 08:47
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Actovegin
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Hi fellas.
Anyone here ever used the stuff for endurance/stamina, as opposed to EPO?
Im in the UK as Im sure plenty of you know, and Im trying to source it - but in the meantime, if anyone has any information they'd like to share regarding its uses, doses, effects .ect - then please list em here and fill me in!
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HI, I have tried it and it s very effective for muscle recovery, but cant speak for endurance. And I would not recommend Indian drugs, I used Austrian stuff, It is EU product so the quality is good.If your not profeesional sportist ( do not have to be tested) than Mildronate definitely is a good choice for endurance.
p.s. I know how hard it is to get reliable source for Actovegin, these guys are my choice meldonium-store.com
I hear you have to dose it with Aicar to really see results.
LiebowId go for Synthetine, used it before with great success anyway...
So if I did 40mg Actovegin everyday for a month, and ran 5ml Synthetine alongside it, I should have good results?
Bare in mind, again, Im after the endurance/stamina and recovery effects.
It was mainly used by cyclists for the belief that it made them faster but it hasn't been shown in studies to do much of anything. In cycling, there is a herd mentality, so everyone takes almost anything they can touch. It doesn't have EPO like effects but some people "feel" like it may help with recovery.
LiebowHave you tried it yourself sir?
Because Im not after "whats been heard" - Im after experienced views of those who have tried it, if you know what I mean?
Yeah, I can help out some
LiebowIve Friend Requested you on here.... hope to chat soon mate. Thanks!
I have friends who are top level cyclists who have tried everything known to man. These aren't weekend warrior types, but people who get randomly tested at their house throughout the year. As an endurance athlete, I heavily researched acto as well and after what I learned and was told, it's more of a placebo effect and doesn't increase endurance.
Are you really thinking about injecting 40mg a day? That seems like an insane dose because most people would just use 5mg or a max of 10mg, into the vein.
If you want increased endurance, use EPO, low dose testosterone (if you're not trying to put on size) and HGH. People have played around with Aicar/GW but it's hard to figure out the dosing, not to mention, way expensive and you'd be better off using the money on better quality HGH.
40mg intramuscolar is different from 10mg into vein...i think the intramuscolar dose got a low bioavaiability than ven dose
LiebowThanks very much mate, this has been very informative.
Ill add you on here - you can help me with my EPO enquires as Im fairly nervy about it and no one seems to have solid answers for what Im asking.... if thats ok with you I mean?
Nope, but after some googling I'm very interested.
LiebowJust seems like "a milder" EPO to me.... that's why Im so interested myself bud!
I know only 1 Pharmacy that has it, no one on EROIDS apart from NapsGear over in the USA.
Actually napsgear is in India I believe. I used them several times and the packs always come from India. Regarding Actovegin, I don't know about it. But thanks for mentioning it. I did some research and I'm very interested. In fact naps carries it, and it's in my cart for my next order. I'm looking forward to trying it.
LiebowI stand corrected, my mistake!
So if there Indian, I wonder if they'll ship to the UK...?
I suppose they will. It's more a matter of the UK government customs enforcement. Is Actovegin legal in the UK? If so, there should be no problem, although you never know when 'imorting' if customs will snatch it or not.
Correction: 'importing'
LiebowSuppose so. I used to get Nolva imported from NZ all the time. Customs would get it every time, but Id have to go and pay a fee of like £10 before I could collect it. Maybe that's what Ill be facing... Ill check it out.
Its hard work trying to find a protocol on how to run the damn stuff. Any word?
You can do 40mg inj every day or 40mg post wo only.
Or 80mg (1 naps gear amp) every two days.
LiebowMany Thanks for this mate....
I can only get 200mg/5ml amps, 5 of them per pack.... so 1ml would be 40mg.
If I was to do 1ml Mon-Fri for a month, would this help do you think?
Remember I want endurance effects....
I only know its recovery effects.
I dont know how much help with endurance... just give it a try.