posted Sat, 06/29/2013 - 12:15
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mTren & Cheque Drops
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Hi chaps.
Is there any reason why I cant / shouldn't use both mTren AND Cheque Drops as pre-workout supps?
Id use 500mcg (0.5ml) of the mTren via IM injection, about 1.5hr before I hit the gym.
And Id put 200mcg of Cheque Drops under my tongue, about an hour before I hit the gym.
Any problems, issues or concerns - for using both together?
Cheers, all help appreciated!
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I used cheque drops in the past but due to the splitting headache and high BP it brought, my workouts sucked overall. Those things are just too harsh for me. I would prefer a half cc of test susp prior to working out over those.
LiebowYeah, Ive stuck with mTren for the time being.... seems to be doing the job.
I was considering 50mg Test Susp. Actually, to be honest, I was considering 0.5ml of both Test Susp AND mTren per day for 20 days - would of been intresting LOL
Thanks though bud!
AnonMtren and cdz ......too much stress on liver........ i would just stick with mtren
I would just use the cdz before an event for more aggression like said before.......but if you do it anyway.......keep it short atleast but i wouldnt do it....m2cnt
LiebowSounds good. Thanks for your input mate!
If you need cheque drops to be able to workout then you sound like you lack motivation. Might want to fix that instead of trying to mask it with the strongest most toxic aggressive steroids
you say you box. Why not just use mtren regularly then in the ring drop cheques but no need to use both every single workout that's just unnecessary and unhealthy
LiebowI don't need them to be able to work out? Please don't make assumptions on my behalf...
My training is intense and hard and long. I cant help but wonder if I could work that bit harder towards the end of the day when Im shattered and lacking stamina/strength... I keep thinking "If only I could train as hard and sharp as I did about 1.5hr ago, that bit more edge and aggression could make a real difference"... and baring in mind Im already fit as a fiddle, but everyone has there limits as Im sure you can appreciate. And certainly if your not a boxer....
Ok now for the relevant part of your post.... thank you, that's good advice.
Ill try mTren 3x per week when Im doing skill work, then on paired-work day where Im in the ring and on the pads - drop the cheque drops in. That's good! That could work.
Thank you bro ;-)
Okay glad I could help. You got to see where I'm coming from. Cheque drops are literally one of the most toxic steroids available. Methyltren is also pretty harsh, the combo (if abused) can have you on a liver transplant list that you will never reach the front of unless you have some serious cash.
Sounds like you DO have a lot of motivation and take your training very seriously. But I still stand by my advice and say just use mtren daily or eod and only use the drops sparingly, in the ring
LiebowOf course I understand what your saying, Ive been doing this game for a long time now, its nothing I haven't already considered or thought about - that's why I was asking. Knowledge is king .ect
Yes, I like your protocol. That's probably the route Im going to follow.
I train 4x per week. 1 day of Power/Mixed Bag work, 1 day of Speed/Endurance work, 1 day of Fitness/Conditioning work, 1 day of Weights/Strength work, and 1 day of paired/1:1 work in the ring.
So I think Cheque Drops would only have a place on ring work And mTren could fit in on the other things...
Agreeable?
Why would you need both anyway, iv'e used both (not at the same time) and workouts and pumps on either are awesome anyway so whats the point? it will just cause uneccessary health concerns,
enjoy your training, enjoy packing on the muscle but above all do it in the safest way possible.
LiebowWe're not disputing WHY I need both mate, Im asking if I can use both together pre-workout.... and if not, why?
Im not trying to pack on muscle.... I box, Id be using mTren n Cheque Drops for a pre-workout aggression boost.
So, your input is that I should pick one or the other, as both do the business well...
Many Thanks!
Liver death would be first and foremost. Second high bp. I wouldn't run both unless I had weekly liver panels done with bp meds and tons of liver support. And to need both for a pwo is a lil too much IMO.
LiebowThanks for your views/input mate. Its appreciated.
Id only use them 3x per week for Pre-Workout. Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. Then the other days Id be clear. Is that still overkill bud? I do boxing.
I find the best liver support is water, and the other "liver supps" out there are just scare-mongering market tactics. Would rather use the money on more steak or more shish meat...
No prob brotha. The only liver support I trust is tudca and its been 100% backed up by real studies to reverse severe liver damage. But anyways 1 of those compounds 3x pw wouldn't be too bad but both is a lil risky ya know? But I here ya on buying more food lol.
LiebowOk so maybe I could alternate it?
A week of Cheque Drops, then a week of mTren and so on...
Ah. The liver regenerates anyway even after severe damage. I know this from having liver problems myself.
Thanks again for your help...
AnonThat's enough for me to know its not smart to do what ur thinking of doing. Learn to walk away homie. 1 time having liver problems is enough. You really wanna chance having liver problems again???
LiebowTwas an unhealthy time of my life when my liver problems came up. Since then Ive used oral kickstarts, and after any cycle my values return to normal within a week of finishing PCT... but of course I do take this into account that Id be risking it. Then again - we all take risks...