Looking through what you have here so far, 8 months below for example is not sufficient time for ?long term hrt therapy in the anti-aging dept etc. Lets put it this way, if we could see pics of tenacious in 5 years without hgh therapy and pics with it I think the diffference would be very obvious. As to long term safety I used Stallone being on it for 3 decades as an example and Vike said in anothr post that Stallone being the ugly mofo he is would be the reason he's not using hgh. So let me be clear, I don't claim hgh makes you pretty if your ugly but if you were to be able to see the difference in what he looks like body wise now vs if he had not used hgh therapy he may look like someones 90 yr old grandma's ass crack! Lol
Heres the points about the addition of hgh in your therapy.
Trt "does not cause new cell production". Yes, you do make the cells you have and the new ones your body create healthier by there are no "additional" new cells abov and betond what the body was already going to produce. Hgh will help create new cells above and beyond what the body was going to make. So think about what aging is and why we do age. When you are in youth the reason for that is that your body is producing way more cells than it needs to satify all your health needs in collogen repair for the skin, strong bones, tight weave in muscle/tendons etc. So when the body is poducing more cells than it can actually use you are in youth and not aging at all, actually getting stronger by the day in terms of health. So aging actually bebins at the very moment in time when the body can no longer produce as many cells as are dying/sluffing. So the actual fountain of youth will be when we find a way to produce all dying cells and stop aging all together. What we do have in hgh is a product that will produce some of the dying cells that the body is in deficit with and that means we "slow " aging down. Its a long process and hard to measur that which you cannot see change in because the change, againg, was just occuring slower. If you had a twin brother and one of you hrt and one rolls trt I think in 5 yrs the trt guy would say he wants the hrt route seeing his brother so much better off than he. Its not the fountain of youth but it is another tool in slowing the clock. Maybe you still die the same day you were going to anyway but you had a better quality of life up to that day, I don't know that answr. Its like I told my Dad once while trying to get him to stop smoking.. his comment was "I don't want to livge to be 100 son". My comment was "I'm not talking about livving longer, I'm talking about the quaity of the living you do". In the end his last few yrs of life were rrough and the final yr very rough with chemo and radiation and probably near 200 doc visits and scans and probes and tests and. On and on.....so there is sort of hthe point his quality would have been better through the improvements of not smoking and then maybe with hgh he would have added another 20% to the "quality" factor and had a very very happy healthy end to his life. Maybe spending days at a park rather than in a chemo chair, other days on vacation rather than laying dying in a bed etc. So do I think hgh might help me in 20 and 30 yrs live in the health Stallone is in vs sitting in a chair watching tv 8 hrs a day, I do think that. I think the extra cell production will give me a much higher quality of life and I think I have proof of that. Other 47 yr olds everywhere I go stare at me with a wtf look because I don't look right in there world view. Why does he not have a gut like I do. Why does he not moan when he stands up from a chair, why does he walk so damn fast and appear to feel good. Whats he so fing happy about. Hey, you're not supposed to play football with the young guys, get over here in the shade in a chair and help us eat cheetos and drink beer and watch the young guys! So theres my personal proof which is all I have. Every function I go to I gravitate to the 25 and 30 yr olds and they gravitate to me. thats my age in my mind because I literally feel that age. The guys my age don't even feel comfortable around me and its obvious they feel inferior. They should, hey are inferior. I don't mean that as a person just physically and metally from an age standpoint I am not 47, not even close. My weekends for example, I don't think about relaxing I think about getting out and finding things to do, hangin in places 25 and 30 yr olds hang and doing the same sorts of activities. I never go "anywhere" that people my age are not looking for somthing easy to do. I want the rock wall and the bike riding and hiking and hell I still ride my sons skateboard in the drive and shoot hoops and do things that irritate people m age. When an average person my age see's a skateboard the last thought in their mind is to hop on it and I never walk by one I don't kicfk it out in front of me and fly down the drive. Point to close, I'm not normal because normal sucks. I choose to be what I am its a conscious decision and I have no doubt hgh plays a role in that . Will it be life altering in 8 months? Probably not. If you could use it in therapy for 5 yrs and then have the ability to see yourself without it and crawl in your body and see what you feel like without it would you say it had been life altering knowing that difference in reality.? Prrobably so IMO.heres the science and its fact not guess work. We know aging is from cell depletion. We know hgh creates new cells...thats pretty simple math in my world..
Put me in a room of 100 47 yr olds and ask 10 people "whats wrong with this picture"? I'll be whats wrong with it because I grew shoulders out of my shoulders and don't have a spare tire and I'm the guy thats standing and not eating chips and dip. Loool. What really hugs me are those who say to me as I try tk help them (family my age etc), "yeah but you've always had those good genes". It pisses me off because good genes are not why I am what I am, good habits are why. I don't spend my day thinking about how I can't wait to get home and plop in the easy chair and suck on a ccobur and watch tv. I spend my day thinking about how pissed I am at those weights and when I get of. I'm going to make their life a living hell ! Its about a conscious effort to do that which I am not supposed to do and do that which I am not supposed to be able to do. If you thnk in the box you live in the box. Think out of it and discover a whole new world olut here. I'm not saying hgh is your answer but it is one of mine. Notice I said 1 . Its one of many so you have to think of the army and not just one soldier. Think of a war going on in your body, good vs eveil. The more good troops you have to fight the evil troops the easier it is to defeat them. Its food and supps and exrcize and then a pssion for life you begin to find and the culminating effect of all that is a new you. It is conscious effert such as that which you are taking now. Very proactive in our youth. When you see what people your age do, DON'T DO IT! Serious, conscious effort. When they sit you stand, they eat cheetos, you drink a protein shake, they watch tv, you go for the stairmaster, they dip out a pile of nmac and cheese at thanksgiving, you dip out a pile of green beans and turkey, they butter the popcorn at the movie, you brought nuts no salt (lol)....its all around you. The common denominators that make you old and those that amke you young. Much of aging is choice believe it or not. So you take this mega pile of things that equate to youth and you use them. Hgh is a tiny part of anti-aging in the big picture, but its one more tiny part I prefer to use in my arsinal. Still, anti-aging is doing things the aging don't, day in and day out. Be youthful in your thinking and actions and thats the key to youthful aging.