TRT protocol for lowering SHBG and increasing DHT
BACKGROUND
I have a total testosterone of 32 nmol/L, DHEA at 15.2 nmol/L, E at 79.2 pmol/L and LH FSH etc. all in normal range. The big issue is my SHBG being at 60 nmol/L.
While muscle building has been quite easy (my estimated free T is still in upper range despite high SHBG), libido and mood has suffered greatly. I think the issue is that since DHT has a higher binding affinity to SHBG compared to T, my free DHT is very low, and since DHT is far more androgenic than T is, I have poor androgenic outcomes. https://themenshealthclinic.co.uk/trt-shbg-and-health-facts-questions-an...).
I tried all the natural dietary and lifestyle interventions and supplements to lower SHBG but they haven't really worked.
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/natural-routes-to-low...
Therefore, I tried using Proviron at a very low dose of just 6.25 mg/daily. In the beginning I got all the benefits I could want from it. My mood was great, more energy and libido was good. But all of the sudden it stopped working after a bit less than 3 weeks so I stopped taking it and so I'm back to the beginning.
I came across this post: https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/proviron-all...
Which advices that you shouldn't take Proviron alone but always to take in conjunction with something like testosterone. The argument for why you can't take it alone is unclear to me but strong suppression has previously been reported: https://www.eroids.com/forums/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/the-proviron....
Conversely, it is often described as a weak steroid that is either not at all or little suppressive. I'm new to the field, but information is really contradicting.
My hesitation about taking testosterone (doing an actual TRT) is that my natural T level is already pretty high so at first glance I can't see why I would need more T.
TRT going forward?
What would be a good protocol for starting TRT that considers my background? The goal is entirely androgenic effects rather than anabolic effects.
I'd love to keep taking Proviron if I could counteract the side effects or ensure that it would work consistently. If I could trade my T for DHT..
Thinking about replicating the following protocol at a lower dosage:
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/over-40-trt/trt-and-proviron...
How does 100 mg/weekly (injected every day so about 15 mg/daily) with 25 mg/daily Proviron sound? Anything else I should add like Clomid, HCG whatnot to preserve fertility and endogenous production of T? How can I get better informed on TRT?
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1994 birthdate. Work closely with your primary Dr so youre medically covered on all areas. Have them screen all the blood info for any issues seen or unseen. High bf and lifestyle choices skew sbgh and all the numbers presented on blood tests. So its not as simple as dose and go. Not if youre interest in a long healthy life.
How old are you ? What testosterone are you taking and what’s your injection schedule?
Your SHBG levels are not actually that bad you lower them you’ll just start pissing out testosterone and not utilising it. The SHBG range is wide because it can be so different person to person but yours is actually in normal range you so the best options for you are to increase testosterone input and/or increase injection frequency. My SHBG levels are slightly higher than yours and I’m not concerned
Why would you do 15mg daily that’s a lot of pins and useless if you’re using long esters, go with test cyp, sust or enth, split it to 2-3 shots a week, adding Hcg 250 iu twice a week should be good for fertility, clomid on trt is useless and long term can cause sides.
High shbg is a fairly bad reason to start trt in my opinion, but there are a number of orals that will lower it.
Anavar crushes my shbg like none other but you can’t take it for any significant length of time since it destroys your lipids as well.
I’m fairly certain you can’t take proviron indefinitely either though. It will damage your liver.
Low dose primobolan is probably your best bet in long term shbg reduction if you go the anabolic route. I’ve heard of some people going indefinitely on a 2:1 ratio of test to primo with trt and it not affecting their health markers.
I do reiterate though. If your testosterone levels are good then you are probably best off just dealing with a high shbg. It’s not detrimental and you’ll be saving your hpta a lot of trouble.
You’re on a point as usual, learning something new errrrday
Why is this your third post over 4 days on this exact thing, saying the exact things, asking the exact same questions?
It looks like he’s looking for someone to agree with his bad idea to justify it to himself to me.
Pain relief is a strong motivator. Proviron was great when it worked and wanted to keep deriving the benefits of it. Regardless, staying off all of it might be better in the end. Bloods came in and my supression is only minor (32 to 24 nmol/L in T and E, FSH, LH are all the same).
It's not the same questions