posted Sun, 03/03/2013 - 01:38
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I decided to use Mp's Test 400 or my weekly TRT. I injected .5 cc and Pip was crazy. What can be done to reduce it. I had planned on using that for a blast, but with serious pip on .5cc I dont see how I can take more than that for cycle.
What can be done to reduce pip. I read something about sterile grape seed oil. Is that true? what ratio do you use? is there any special way it needs to be blended?
thanks for the help, gonna use heating pad on my ass cheeck tonight.
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Like mateo said below, try running sterile grape seed oil along with the test. Significantly reduces pip with most compounds. It's likely the EO that is getting you. Some guys will use high amounts of ethyl oleate when producing these high mg compounds. Half cc of sterile grape seed oil with your half cc of test should help out a lot.
I think I will have to try that GSO. I have had pip before but only when I shot a few cc in one shot. Never thought .5cc would have so much kick. thanks for the help.
Just make sure it's sterile GSO and not just the filtered stuff you buy at the grocery store.
there is a source on here that just started shwing there ad, they have 100ml sealed bottle, says filtered grape seed oil. I assume that will do? as well as last me a very long time.
thx
Yeah just shoot them a pm and ask to make sure. But I'm sure it probably is.
copy that. No I found a site (peptide site) that sells sterile GSP in 100 ml bottles.
What is the carrier most likely used for TNE. Every time I pin, I pin some TNE. It's really helped or maybe I'm crazy. Either one is acceptable
Just depends on the brewer. Some use 100% EO. Others may add guiaicol. TNE is a little different animal because it has no ester to help keep it in suspension, which is why you see so much crashed TNE out there. BB concentration is often also a lot higher than the standard 18-20% commonly used in producing other tests. We're not allowed to post recipes on here so that's about all I can say.
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try mixing with some grapeseed oil or maybe B12 injectable
Good answer brother.
thanks my man
AnonThats very very common with high concentration gear.
You just gotta suck it up.
Maybe throw in another compound and mix your shots.
lol. man u guys are rough....
Just suck it up.
If its your first time pining its normal. It only gets better
just get some normal dosed stuff price is there for sure but when it comes to higher concentration in my opinion that 400mg / ml stuff just aint worth the pain...
the great thing about higher concentrations is that it allows you to split your doses with less oil per injection. remember, it's a combination of the solvents and oils that causes the pip. less amounts per pin equates to decreased levels of pain.
thats what i thought but mmm i do not agree based on my experience i believe for anyone prone to pip that 1 ml of prop 250 shot up is going to hurt more than 2 ml of prop 100 anyday... high concentration is high concentration no matter how u pin it...
yes, you're right. i was more or less referring to using the higher concentrations to split the doses throughout the week. just because the compound is dosed at 250, doesn't mean you gotta pin 250. do the math and get it as close to 100 as your can. likewise, 500mg sust doesn't mean you have to pin a full cc. go half a cc with each and split that throughout the week to get to your target. if the pip is still too bad, draw half cc of compound and half cc of GSO. that should help.
for me, the idea of having the higher concentrations makes it easier for me to stack with less oil per pin. an added bonus is having to ship and store fewer bottles for one cycle. in a sense, doubling the concentration by volume is like consolidating a 20ml jug into 10ml, or two 10ml into one.
agreed