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Gt4grayson
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Low lh and fsh

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Age 43
Weight 215
Bf 12.5%

I ended a long blast of eq at 350 mg per week at the end of July 2019. I was cruising on 175 mg of test C only from August through November. I tested my blood. Mid November and I was at 1963( had to test three days after my shot) my estradiol was 47.3 pg/ml and my lh and fsh were at 0.1 and 0.2 respectively. I dropped to 125mgs of test c, added 500 iu Hcg 3x per week and aromasin at 0.25 3x per week. My most recent results from early January are:
Total T. 1106 ng/dl
Free T. 50. pg/dl
Estradiol. <5.0 pg/ml
Lh. 0.3 mIU/mL
Fsh 0.3 mIU/mL

I am dropping the test C to 100 mg per week, dropping the ai totally and keeping the Hcg. I have also been running 250 mgs per week of Equipoise. My question is
Will my fsh and lh continue to rise or did I leave testes dormant for too long?

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johnmarshall12's picture

Sounds like you need t plan your cycles and PCT better for the future. Might want to consider HMG for FSH in the short term.

DfromPhilly's picture

Ok buddy. This is how it works. In simple terms.

Exogenous Testosterone tells your body “we automated your job, you take a break on making test. Tell your guys to go to Maui or some shit.”

So the whole HPTA goes on break. This is how.

LH and FSH leave. They’re the Forman and floor supervisor. They tell the leydig cells in the balls to get cracking and make some testesterone.

When the Forman’s not around, the balls get lazy. They go “fuck it, if the Forman's not here then why the fuck are we showing up? These god damn robots are doing everything anyway.”

They get pissed about the Forman’s vacation and the robots... they go on strike.

If the balls stop working long enough, it could take a lot of negotiating to get them back. Some may even have forgot how to do their job in the first place.

If you want your balls to keep working while the Forman’s on vacation, you can hire a guy (HCG) to run shit while he’s out. He’s almost like the real thing, and he’ll keep the balls happy enough to stick around. They’ll still be annoyed, but they won’t forget how to do their job, and things will get done.

But the HCG isn’t getting the forman back to work. Or the contractor for that matter. Why would they show up if someone’s already got their shit covered? Dude hasn’t taken a vacation in decades and HCG keeps telling him that shit’s covered.

So LH and FSH aren’t coming back to work until the robots (AAS) are gone and the HCG leaves town.

And there’s gonna be a couple weeks or even months after AAS and HCG leave that LH and FSH still don’t come back... you’re gonna have to call their wives (SERMs) to nag them and MAKE them show back up.

Does that make sense?

Bearded_muscle's picture

Lol D you crushed it bro. Entertainment and learning.
Good stuff!

GizmoDuck's picture

Hey! Small balls just make me “look” bigger! I’ll take all the help when I can get it. Hahaha

DfromPhilly's picture

Or if they’re trying to crank out some kiddo’s lmao.

Good shit thanks brother

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Lol +2 for the chink’s knowledge!

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HCG isn’t gonna make your LH and FSH go up dude. That’s not how it works. It actually tells your body not to make it because it’s already sending the signal for it.

Not sure what you’re trying to accomplish here.

Your LH and FSH aren’t going anywhere til you stop using all anabolics and HCG.

You have a lot of reading to do

Gt4grayson's picture

Thank you for the explanation. I have been reading but I could not find a clear answer. So hcg mimics lh but it doesn’t affect your numbers on your blood test? If so how do you know if it is working?

DfromPhilly's picture

You’ll know it’s working if your balls don’t shrink. Or if you get bloods and you’re not taking test and you have normal test.

But you’re correct. HCG sends the LH signal... but it is not LH. Therefore it will not show as LH on a blood test.

Gt4grayson's picture

Might you also feel he Hcg in the form of libido? That’s why I was mainly on it?

DfromPhilly's picture

doubtful. Not if you’re on TRT and everything else is in check. It can keep some synapses in the brain firing though. Some of those can give libido a little boost I guess, but likely not noticeable. The benefit is the brain function and the balls not shrinking up to pebbles.

That’s all really up to your doc. There are arguments for it in conjunction with TRT. Google HCG and Testosterone replacement therapy. You’ll find some of those arguments.

I’m surprised you have libido at all with ur e2 that low

Gt4grayson's picture

Ha well I don’t have much but there’s no Ed... thanks for the info on eq and e2. I wondering if I should raise my test C or just drop the ai and wait six weeks. It’s not a lot of eq though. I’m not looking for a lot of gains.

DfromPhilly's picture

Definitely drop the AI. You could retest a couple weeks after and see what happens.

I’d drop the EQ too tho. If ur not looking for gains what’s the point of taking it anyway?

Retest in 4-6 weeks

Gt4grayson's picture

Well I’ve read it helps with joints. My joints hurt all the time. I feel better in the gym when I’m on it bs just test

DfromPhilly's picture

Well if it’s crashing your e2 like I think it is then it couldn’t be worse for your joints. You could try dropping the AI. That could be it. If you do that retest in 3 weeks. If it’s still low you gotta drop the EQ

Crashed e2 is bad for your joints, weakens your bones, bad for libido, recovery, energy, and is SUPER bad for your heart over stretches of time.

They did a study and low e2 increased chance of death in older guys by a good margin. I don’t remember the number but it was enough to scare you.

It’s honestly not all that good for the joints either. May be placebo. Take a glucosamine/chondriten/msm for joints. And get your e2 up.

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Thank you for your help

DfromPhilly's picture

No problem man. Good luck

DfromPhilly's picture

I got money on the low e2 being the EQ that he’s running.

Fried axis shouldn’t effect e2 if test is still present. E2 is made by the aromatase enzymes. I don’t think they’re officially a part of the HPTA.

Gt4grayson's picture

How could the low e2 come from eq?

DfromPhilly's picture

Not very well known (well, it’s starting to be, but still not widely known)

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/equipoise-eq-...

Gt4grayson's picture

Thx for the info. After reading I could not find what prop and TNE are?

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Awesome thanks

plantguypete's picture

You’re taking exogenous male hormone, that knowingly shuts down endogenous production and you’re confused as to why your nut function is low?

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Gt4grayson's picture

Not confused at all about what shuts you down. I’ve read that Hcg can maintain function. I guess my question is once it’s shut down will Hcg not help you regain it?

Gt4grayson's picture

The initial clinic that started me on trt said nothing about Hcg, fsh or lh. I found out about all of that on this forum.

Gt4grayson's picture

Further I’ve had no success with any dr who knows what they are talking about. I started trt at one of those bs men’s clinics. They know less than this forum. Further I can fine no endo that will work with my insurance

Gt4grayson's picture

To get fsh and lh up. Since I didn’t start with Hcg does that mean it cannot help me now?

Gt4grayson's picture

It’s my understanding that Hcg helps with lh and While on trt

Gt4grayson's picture

Yeah I don’t know why it got that low. I read elsewhere that ai in conjunction with Hcg can crash your e2

Gt4grayson's picture

I did some cycles when I was 17-23 then dabbled with pro hormones when about 10 years ago. I had no idea what I was doing and never did a pct. in 2016 at 39 I went to a trt clinic and was low. I went with them for a year and decided to go back natural. I did a PCT March a psychiatrist put me on 100 mg of test c for depression so I just rode with it. He was just throwing other meds at me so I just stopped going to him and went on my own. Then I decided to throw in a eq cycle for a little boost in the gym.