+ 1 How long to cruise after Test E/ Eq
Thanks in advance for the advice.
I'm 39 yo, 5'9", 187 pounds and about 12% BF on my current bulk. I've been on TRT at about 175mg/wk for a year after testing below 200. This was totally a surprise and not a result of AAS, as I had done a couple of cycles with appropriate PCT 20 years ago and had made plenty of progress since.
Since I've been on TRT for about a year and have obsessively kept my training and diet on point since I was 13 I decided to start my first blast. I figured now that my natural test is shit canned I might as well have some fun. This is after 25 years of natural training, getting leaner each year but topping out at about 195-198 at 12-14% BF. I could never seem to get my BF down lower without dropping significant muscle, no matter how precisely I planned, measured and calculated.
I decided to go with TestE/ Equipoise, mostly because I could bring it home easily from a trip overseas. I'm doing quite well and have gone up 7 pounds since starting 8 weeks ago (I was actually almost 195 at 14% 6 months ago, but had a month of fieldwork in the bush and just couldn't get in enough calories--I'm trying to get back my old weight as goal number 1.) The gains have been accelerating, as I understand happens with the Eq.
My plan is to run 16-18 weeks of the Eq at 600mg/wk and continue the 500mg/wk of Test E for an additional 2 weeks. So far I'm tolerating it perfectly and except for some lessons with PIP and Testoviron Depot, I've had an easy time.
My questions are:
1. How long do you guys like to come down to maintenance TRT levels between blasts?
2. Does it depend on the meds chosen or is a range of weeks off pretty much good for an all-purpose cruise? (4 weeks, 6 weeks, 8 weeks, etc)
3. Should I consider upping my HCG while on or right after a cycle? My doc has me on 1200U per week in a divided dose as maintenance.
Thanks, amigos. I am so happy to have found this board.
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We gotta be pals- seems like ur about same age, fucked up ur natty test, know ur sweet spot etc.
When I get my labs fri, what should be an acceptable test # to shoot for baseline trt cruising?
I suspect I'll be under 100 and want to know how many Mgs I need to get it to a good baseline.
Thought?
6 months ago- doc gave me 200mgs every other week-
Got me as high as 328-
I'd like to be higher for cruising...yes?
I mean if normal is 250-1100, who the fuck wants to be at bottom levels?
I'd like to get all my numbers squared away as suggested by Treadm
Then bombs away !
Well, everyone is different, and it is a bit of a back and forth to get it right at first. My doc wanted to get me as high as I could feel ok with--no bad sides. He kept asking about aggression/ anger for some reason, but I'm a pretty chill guy, and have never had any at all.
So we kept creeping up and the last few times I checked it was 3 days after injecting and my levels were around 1500--upper limits of normal are around 1200. My doc was happy as long as I wasn't getting raged. I was, too.
At that dose I take 0.25 mg of arimidex 3x a week and my estradiol is 25ish.
My dose for that is 175mg/ wk of test C divided into 2 doses. I've never done 1x/ week dosing, but I've heard, and my doc feels, that blood levels stay more even with twice a week.
I'm with you about a higher-end cruise level. If you don't have a T level of a 20 year old, what is the point of TRT? I say shoot for 1200-1500, as long as your sides are tolerable.
sorry man* just saw this post.
let me know what you have learned about finding your baseline?
what is it.
As you know, I am will be TRT . just waiting on results tomorrow to see what I have to work with.
Gear should be here tomorrow.-- yeah
My doc started me at 140mg/ wk and that put me at around 1100. I was feeling great and he agreed to go to 175mg/ wk, which brought me to almost 1500.
I had a bit of bloat and some nipple tenderness but that went away on arimidex, almost instantly. After my estradiol came back a bit low he dropped my dose to 3x a week. Been on that regimen until 5 weeks ago, when I started my test e/ equipoise cycle. We did some adjusting of different things over a couple of months, but overall it was painless.
My plan is to drop back to 175mg/ wk for 6-8 weeks after my cycle and go from there. I'll let you know how it goes.